Re: F# fsharp
Brandon Van Every <[email protected]>
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On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Sam Martin <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is just another way of saying they are different languages with > different goals. Yeah, like one of 'em has the goal of being an academic research language, and another has the goal of being commercially viable. >> Too small a number of people >> fighting over intellectual and financial scraps. You can't really >> talk to these people seriously about money, productization, or >> usability, as they're simply not motivated that way. Personally I >> think the commercial merit of F# is bloody obvious compared to any of >> the other FP competitors. The only thing actually worth discussing >> IMO is whether F# can replace Lua, Python, Ruby, C#, etc. > > I do feel this is rather unfair, although I'm not totally sure who 'these > people' are? I have not found the FP community to be against wider adoption > of Haskell in industry, quite the reverse. In particular, I've found all the > GHC guys to be very keen to both promote and understand the problems faced > by people interested in adopting Haskell outside academia. This isn't > surprising - industry adoption of your research is perhaps the best > validation you could get. People don't just listen to academics and then adopt their toys. It takes money and corporate muscle, such as Microsoft is providing for F#. It doesn't matter whether academics like the idea of industrial adoption in theory, as they're not doing the legwork to make it so. Microsoft Research hired a lot of language researchers, and they sat around for *years* in irrelevance, same as Haskell, until finally they got far enough that there was something worth productizing. Then it got green lighted and now we have the result. We don't have to sit around in academic theory land anymore, we can get on with real work. Cheers, Brandon Van Every _______________________________________________ Sweng-Gamedev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com