Re: a long, long time ago ...

Gregory Alexopoulos <[email protected]> Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:42:32 +0100 (BST)
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.cat23.all-chat
Message-ID <[email protected]>
...in a galaxy far, far away. 

I find this link very interesting: 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4158832.stm


--- "Iverson, Clark" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gentlefolk,
>      We've recently had some discussion of whether
> the spontaneous death penalty is something that
> civilized nations do, and whether uttering the word
> "terrorism" is sufficient to overturn the bedrock
> presumption of innocence that is supposed to be the
> basis of our legal systems.  This was occasioned by
> the killing of a Mr. deMenzes in London, recent
> enough to remember but long enough ago that the
> general public has forgotten.
>      We now know this:
> "Police officers from the team involved in the fatal
> shooting of Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes did
> not believe he posed 'an immediate threat'."
> source: 
>
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1553440,00.html?gusrc=rss
> 
>      Yet again, the point is made that a mistake in
> the death penalty is irrevocable.  In this case, an
> arrest and a trial would likely have avoided that
> mistake.
>      Yet again, the
> kill-first-and-ask-questions-later mentality was
> dead wrong, whether in the guise of Bin Laden and
> his ilk or besuited usurpers in Washington D.C. or
> bobbies with guns.  
> 
>      Also from the article:
> "For reasons as yet unclear, members of the firearms
> team have yet to submit their own account of the
> events to the IPCC. The two members of the team
> believed to have fired the fatal shots are known to
> have gone on holiday immediately after the
> shooting."
> 
>      Right.
> 
>      So next time that we have a chance to weigh in,
> whether with our votes or otherwise, maybe a few of
> us will consider again the words of Benjamin
> Franklin, posted on this board not long ago, as
> wiser than the anti-liberty mentality.
> 
> best regards,
> Clark Iverson
> 
> 
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> 
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