Re: a long, long time ago ...
Gregory Alexopoulos <[email protected]> Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:42:32 +0100 (BST)
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...in a galaxy far, far away. I find this link very interesting: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4158832.stm --- "Iverson, Clark" <[email protected]> wrote: > Gentlefolk, > We've recently had some discussion of whether > the spontaneous death penalty is something that > civilized nations do, and whether uttering the word > "terrorism" is sufficient to overturn the bedrock > presumption of innocence that is supposed to be the > basis of our legal systems. This was occasioned by > the killing of a Mr. deMenzes in London, recent > enough to remember but long enough ago that the > general public has forgotten. > We now know this: > "Police officers from the team involved in the fatal > shooting of Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes did > not believe he posed 'an immediate threat'." > source: > http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1553440,00.html?gusrc=rss > > Yet again, the point is made that a mistake in > the death penalty is irrevocable. In this case, an > arrest and a trial would likely have avoided that > mistake. > Yet again, the > kill-first-and-ask-questions-later mentality was > dead wrong, whether in the guise of Bin Laden and > his ilk or besuited usurpers in Washington D.C. or > bobbies with guns. > > Also from the article: > "For reasons as yet unclear, members of the firearms > team have yet to submit their own account of the > events to the IPCC. The two members of the team > believed to have fired the fatal shots are known to > have gone on holiday immediately after the > shooting." > > Right. > > So next time that we have a chance to weigh in, > whether with our votes or otherwise, maybe a few of > us will consider again the words of Benjamin > Franklin, posted on this board not long ago, as > wiser than the anti-liberty mentality. > > best regards, > Clark Iverson > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/7tRolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: [email protected] > Subscribe: > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: > [email protected] > List owner: [email protected] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [email protected] > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/7tRolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~->