RE: Re: By the way, Bill
"Iverson, Clark" <[email protected]> Mon, 5 Sep 2005 10:49:42 -0400
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Uh, Bill ...
While I've learned to expect diversionary personal comments from you, these are getting truly excessive.
I have provided sources about the cuts in funding to the basic defenses (levees) and about the diversion of equipment. So have others. How about if you provide a source that supports your assertion about the levees being peachy keen.
I have provided facts and reason that rebut your flat denial about Iraq being related to our poor handling of the disaster.
Your comments about my enjoying blaming human tragedy on one of your heroes is simply false. People have died. Try to take it seriously.
Also, your false memories of my position on the aggression against Bosnia are amusing, but more your personal(and again diversionary) fantasy than any memorandum of fact. Some of are against wars on principle, Bill. Not everyone puts party ahead of country, you know.
If you are capable of engaging this issue seriously, I look forward to your documentation that shows that the levees were fixed as much as they could be, as well as an explanation of how that squares with the drastic cuts to their budget.
cheers,
Clark
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] on behalf of William Highfield
Sent: Mon 9/5/2005 10:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CAT23-Achat] Re: By the way, Bill
Clark,
You can blame the governor's failure to act more than a shortage of
National Guard troops. She didn't use the resources she had,m yet you
complain she should have had more?
Again you come up with radical verbage like "illegal war". It ain't
illegal, and you know it. But you parrot the koolaid drinkers and
tinfoil hat wearers on the left all you want. It won't change the facts.
The fact is that that levee system WAS upgraded where it broke, and it
did NOTHING to stop the storm waters. It's one reason why the money you
were refering to wasn't spent.
I know you'll enjoy blaming yet another natural disaster on the
President. You get off on it, I think. Intellectual honesty would
require you to realize that a Cat4 or Cat5 hurricane was going to hit
New Orleans whether we were in Iraq or not. That regardless of where
the guard had troops deployed, it would have made ZERO difference when
the governor refuses to activate them early, refuses to properly
evacuate the city, refuses to declare a state emergency, refuses to
coordinate with FEMA, and condones looting.
The War on Iraq had ZERO to do with a hurricane hitting New Orleans. It
had ZERO to do with the human suffering caused by an incompetent local
and state government that did NOTHING to prepare. The Feds are moving
in, but their hands are still tied in Louisana because Blanco won't
declare a state emergency.
No doubt due to the War in Iraq, right?
I also have no doubt that if a Democrat ever becomes President again,
everything will be hunky-dory, and when he sends troops into combat,
you'll declare THAT an illegal war too, right? I mean, I distinctly
remember hearing you call the Bosnian war illegal when Clinton sent
troops there. Oh wait, no I didn't. You approved of that war, because
Clinton was a Democrat. The UN didn't sanction that war either, but
because we were liberating a people from a genocidal maniac, you
approved. Uh, but wait, that's EXACTLY what we did in Iraq. The only
difference was that we have a strategic interest in Iraq (who WAS a
threat to his neighbors) where Milosevich was NOT a threat to his
neighbors. I opposed the war in the Balkans because we should not have
had to take the lead in yet ANOTHER European problem. It was their
backyard, they should have taken care of it themselves. But that's
another discussion.
You on the left can carp against Bush all you want. The only problem I
ever had with Clinton was his lying under oath, his tax increases and
Janet Reno. I supported him on NAFTA, and I supported him when he sign
welfare reform. As far as his policies go, I probably supported him
about 30% of the time, which is 30% more than you on the left support
Bush. I've never seen such fanatical hatred for a President. Even in
time of national crisis, the first instinct is to lash out at George
Bush, like Kanye West, Jesse Jackson, Governor Blanco, and many other
Democratic leaders have done. One would think they could put the hatred
and the vitroil aside for a bit to get people rescued, but in today's
poisonous political theater, that ain't likely. It's attack the
President at every opportunity.
It must suck to be completely out of power. Republicans remember how it
felt, and I do not remember this level of hatred when the Dems
controlled all three branches of government. And now with the Supreme
Court about to be stacked on the Conservative side, they stepped up the
partisan rancor another notch.
It's really quite sad, and most likely going to destroy the Democratic
party. An ABC news poll the other day showed that a majority of
Americans do NOT blame George Bush for the hurricane or it's aftermath,
so when these losers get up and blame George and the Iraq war, they're
reinforcing popular perception that the Democrats are just too nutty to
be entrusted with high office. Hopefully the sane ones will take back
the party before 2008.
--
Bill Highfield
St Cloud, Florida, USA!
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