Re: Is justice delayed 24 years justice?

"Peter J Richardson" <[email protected]> Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:34:42 -0000
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Highfield" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CAT23-Achat] Is justice delayed 24 years justice?


> My own personal opinion is that
>
> (1) capital punishment takes too long to carry out to be effective as a
> "deterent".  They need to speed up the process.

I agree. Incidently, if it is intended as retribution, 24 years is too long as well, after all why should the 
murder victim's relatives have to wait 24 years to "see justice done"?

I think I agree for the most parts with your points (2) and (3) below as well, though I am not knowledgeable of 
the particular examples you cite.

Regards
Peter


>
> (2) capital punishment is used in sentencing WAY too often.  The death
> penalty needs to be reserved for heinous crimes.  "Tookie" Williams
> murdered four people in cold blood and is the founder of a street gang
> where in order to be admitted to the gang, you had to commit a violent
> crime on someone.  He clearly deserved the death penalty.  Many others,
> however, do not.  Case in point, we had a 17 year old kill his mother
> and father and shoot his sister.  He showed no remorse, hell, he BRAGGED
> about it on camera as they were hauling him away.  While he should get
> the death penalty, if it were up to me, I'd put his rear end in solitary
> confinement with a noose hanging from the ceiling and play his sisters
> heart wrenching 9-1-1 call in a continuous loop 24 hours a day, 7 days a
> week until he hung himself.  Or until he died of old age, whichever came
> first.
>
> (3) I think many death penalty opponents have a legitamate argument.
> Unfortunately, they often hang out with utter morons on the left .
> Tookie Williams by all accounts was a waste of human flesh.  For
> Hollywood leftists and so-called civil rights leaders to argue that he's
> a changed man, that he writes children's books, or that he was innocent
> (?!) is beyond the pale.  It is IRRELEVANT whether he was a changed man,
> or that he now writes children's books.  He clearly was guilty as hell,
> and to argue otherwise is sheer idiocy and proof that those involved had
> neither looked into the facts, nor seen the pictures and testimony of
> his victims and witnesses.  Death penalty opponents need to stay away
> from the nutjobs just as abortion opponents need to keep their distance
> from the clinic bombers.  They do not, however, and I saw many signs
> saying "Tookie was innocent" along aside posters that said "the death
> penalty is morally wrong".  Frankly, I'm in favor of locking criminals
> up for life of hard labor, putting them to sleep nightly with recordings
> of their victims until they decided to kill themselves.  But then, I've
> been the victim of a violent crime (robbed with a knife to my throat)
> when I was 16, and when I see the photos of that young man who Tookie
> nailed with a shotgun in the back of the head, I think but for the grace
> of God that might have been me.
>
> -- 
> Bill Highfield
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