Re: Digest Number 1642
"Ian Cowburn" <[email protected]> Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:11:51 +0100
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Greg, I have an Iranian brother-in-law, so I can tell you straight ; Iranians are NOT Ay-rabs, and are indeed highly prejudiced against them. What's more, they are Shi'a, ie they believe that Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet, was the last real leader, or Imam, of Islam, and that the Hidden Imam (the "Mahdi"), is yet to come. Of course the Sunni, the orthodox Muslims, abhor this view, and al-Qaida (or the shadow of this inexistant organisation which is projected on our screens for our tremulous satisfaction), will with great joy undertake "operations" aganist the Shi'a as they do against the "Crusaders and Apostates". But wait, there's more ; the Shi'a are divided into two antagonistic groups, for centuries ; the Septimans and the Duodecimans. The former believe that after Ali there were Seven imams, and then silence ; the latter, that there were Twelve, and then the same. The Iranians are in their great majority Septimans, however other smaller Shi'a groupings are of the other persuasion, such as the followers of the Aga Khan (directly descended from the Assassins, or Haschischeen, of the Middle Ages), or the Druze, who are even more heretically inclined in that they admit also various heritages of the pre-Islamic Sabaeans and the heretic Christian Nestorians. Walid Jumblatt, the leader of the Druze holed up in the Chouf region of the Lebanon, is widely known as a paramilitary political leader ; it would surprise some to hear what he has to say about the origin of the Druze corpus of belief and the interaction the Druze have had with groups such as the Lurianic Jews of Safed and the heritage of the Templars. And finally there are the Sufic schools of Syria, Turkey, and the Caucasus who are all of the Shi'a persuasion and possess much lore dating from the time when the People of the Book were not yet even in the process of writing It ; I wish to point out that "Islam" is no monolithic block, with but one visage, stonily pointed West, but as variegated and turned within itself as "Christendom", as carrying as strong resentments as a Moravian Brother or a Socinian would against a member of the Society of Jesus or the Hieron du Val d'Or. Melchisedek From: Gregory Alexopoulos <[email protected]> Subject: Re: What is President Ahmadinejad on? --- Peter J Richardson <[email protected]> wrote: > Is President Ahmadinejad a CIA agent? > Why, has he been using EU airports for his prisoners? ;^p > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4529198.stm > > If the US government were to want to build a > "coalition of the willing" Ahmadinejad seems to be > going out of his > way to make that task as easy as possible. > IMHO he's trying to see how far he can go without being given a "yellow card". It's a trial and error process. As soon as he knows his limits (which will keep getting broader as long as the Iraqi business does not reach a descent conclusion) he's going to crown himself the Champion of all Arabs (or, better yet, all Muslims) against the crusaders. It won't be the first time someone's becoming a messiah in the middle east. It won't be the last time either. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/7tRolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~->