Re: Re: Game history aproximation...

"Michael D. Ashland" <[email protected]> Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:26:43 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.cat23.game-chat
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Ahhhh, yeesss, my Preeeccccioussssssss.

I may play that role on occasion, but then, I disagree with your 
conclusion that "the whole point of the game is one of give and take."

The whole point of the game is "I win." :-)

As for lying, I know many players who go to great lengths to never tell 
a direct lie. I'm one of them. Really! ;-)

mczet wrote:

>The Smeagols are the players who clutch their dots to their breast,
>whispering Preeeeeessssssious. Never understanding that the whole point of
>the game is one of give and take. And if you sink so low as to ever grab any
>dots from them, they will instantly brand you a liar, shouting for all to
>hear how the nasty Baggens lied to them and now they must attack you
>forever.
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Michael D. Ashland" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [CAT23-Gchat] Re: Game history aproximation...
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>>I think a lot of it has to do with the "instant" gratification and
>>commitment factors.
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>>You can go on your Game Boy, your PS2, or your computer and play games
>>to a conclusion in a few minutes, hours, or at most, days. You do not
>>need to figure how to communicate effectively with anyone, just learn
>>the rules and go to it.
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>>A good standard game of PBEM Diplomacy requires a minimum commitment of
>>6 months or more, and there is all that bothersome writing!
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>>As for the easily offended, I believe that in most cases, that's just
>>somebody looking for an easy excuse to take his bat and go home.
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>>What's a "smeagol"?
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>>mczet wrote:
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>>>Agreed, and I might also add that our groups are victims of their own
>>>success. Having been kicked out of Genie which was one of the first to
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>>>we were also amoung the first to spread the Dip gospel on the WWW. There
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>>>people playing all over the place.
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>>>Also, many of us are just not quite as nutso about the game as we used to
>>>be. We have little patience for the smeagols and easily offended.
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>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "greg15669" <[email protected]>
>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:19 AM
>>>Subject: [CAT23-Gchat] Re: Game history aproximation...
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>>>>--- In [email protected], "David E Watson" <dipknight@c...>
>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>The Net itself had a big boom and outpour of interest in the 90's
>>>>>that swelled our ranks.
>>>>>My guesstimation is Gamestarts snowballed from about 300 to 800 and
>>>>>then slowly leveled off.
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>>>>>We're on the downside of that hill now where most of those that
>>>>>started in Cat23 have now either left or spread their interest into
>>>>>other Dip groups or (dare I say it) other interests entirely. (As
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>>>>My general feeling is that there are less and less people who are
>>>>interested in table board games. One interested in strategy games can
>>>>easily spend time on the various (and very good) PC games that have
>>>>appeared over the past 5 years or so.
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>>>>Additionally, Hasbro is not particularly interested in Dip or the
>>>>other ex-AH games, as the bulk of its cash flow comes from toys and
>>>>diplomacy is but a tiny fraction of their agenda. So, they hardly
>>>>market the Game.
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>>>>Two good reasons that we see fewer and fewer new players. And not
>>>>just on cat23 - it's no coincidence that the Pouch gets hardly 1 or 2
>>>>issues out per year...
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>>>>Gregory
>>>>(snip)
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