Re: Re: Game history aproximation...
"mczet" <[email protected]> Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:11:21 -0600
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Yet, because you may not, do you then jump on the table and become flabbergasted and offended when someone else actually does? Do you instantly trash your game because you cannot play with people who lie to you? Or, do you simply file this away and return to doing whatever you think might be necessary for you to do to win? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D. Ashland" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [CAT23-Gchat] Re: Game history aproximation... > > Ahhhh, yeesss, my Preeeccccioussssssss. > > I may play that role on occasion, but then, I disagree with your > conclusion that "the whole point of the game is one of give and take." > > The whole point of the game is "I win." :-) > > As for lying, I know many players who go to great lengths to never tell > a direct lie. I'm one of them. Really! ;-) > > mczet wrote: > > >The Smeagols are the players who clutch their dots to their breast, > >whispering Preeeeeessssssious. Never understanding that the whole point of > >the game is one of give and take. And if you sink so low as to ever grab any > >dots from them, they will instantly brand you a liar, shouting for all to > >hear how the nasty Baggens lied to them and now they must attack you > >forever. > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Michael D. Ashland" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:09 AM > >Subject: Re: [CAT23-Gchat] Re: Game history aproximation... > > > > > > > > > >>I think a lot of it has to do with the "instant" gratification and > >>commitment factors. > >> > >>You can go on your Game Boy, your PS2, or your computer and play games > >>to a conclusion in a few minutes, hours, or at most, days. You do not > >>need to figure how to communicate effectively with anyone, just learn > >>the rules and go to it. > >> > >>A good standard game of PBEM Diplomacy requires a minimum commitment of > >>6 months or more, and there is all that bothersome writing! > >> > >>As for the easily offended, I believe that in most cases, that's just > >>somebody looking for an easy excuse to take his bat and go home. > >> > >>What's a "smeagol"? > >> > >>mczet wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Agreed, and I might also add that our groups are victims of their own > >>>success. Having been kicked out of Genie which was one of the first to > >>> > >>> > >fold, > > > > > >>>we were also amoung the first to spread the Dip gospel on the WWW. There > >>> > >>> > >are > > > > > >>>people playing all over the place. > >>> > >>>Also, many of us are just not quite as nutso about the game as we used to > >>>be. We have little patience for the smeagols and easily offended. > >>> > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "greg15669" <[email protected]> > >>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:19 AM > >>>Subject: [CAT23-Gchat] Re: Game history aproximation... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>--- In [email protected], "David E Watson" <dipknight@c...> > >>>>wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>The Net itself had a big boom and outpour of interest in the 90's > >>>>>that swelled our ranks. > >>>>>My guesstimation is Gamestarts snowballed from about 300 to 800 and > >>>>>then slowly leveled off. > >>>>> > >>>>>We're on the downside of that hill now where most of those that > >>>>>started in Cat23 have now either left or spread their interest into > >>>>>other Dip groups or (dare I say it) other interests entirely. (As > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>if > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>there is ANY life after Dip). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>My general feeling is that there are less and less people who are > >>>>interested in table board games. One interested in strategy games can > >>>>easily spend time on the various (and very good) PC games that have > >>>>appeared over the past 5 years or so. > >>>> > >>>>Additionally, Hasbro is not particularly interested in Dip or the > >>>>other ex-AH games, as the bulk of its cash flow comes from toys and > >>>>diplomacy is but a tiny fraction of their agenda. So, they hardly > >>>>market the Game. > >>>> > >>>>Two good reasons that we see fewer and fewer new players. And not > >>>>just on cat23 - it's no coincidence that the Pouch gets hardly 1 or 2 > >>>>issues out per year... > >>>> > >>>>Gregory > >>>>(snip) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>Community email addresses: > >> Post message: [email protected] > >> Subscribe: [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe: [email protected] > >> List owner: [email protected] > >> > >>Shortcut URL to this page: > >> http://www.onelist.com/community/CAT23-Gchat > >>Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >Community email addresses: > > Post message: [email protected] > > Subscribe: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > > List owner: [email protected] > > > >Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://www.onelist.com/community/CAT23-Gchat > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: [email protected] > Subscribe: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > List owner: [email protected] > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/CAT23-Gchat > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >