Re: Question about Spain and coasts

"Peter J Richardson" <[email protected]> Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:25:17 -0000
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.cat23.game-chat
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adam Kuehn" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [CAT23-Gchat] Question about Spain and coasts


>
> Peter J Richardson wrote:
>
>>What is ambiguous about
>>
>>F Spain supports WME to MAO  ?
>>
>>What is the relevance of the non-stated coastal designation to this order?
>
> I am not strongly committed to that position, to be honest, although
> I still do favor it very slightly.  It is mostly to promote
> consistency.  I want players to always write coastal designations on
> fleet orders in multi-coastal provinces, simply to make it a habit.
> Also, this position is consistent with my general view that I do not
> presume that the player intends to submit a valid order.
>
>>I agree with the rest of your post where you state that if that is
>>what you say in your House Rules then players
>>get what they signed up for, but this is the ruling that I would
>>consider contrary to the "an order that can
>>admit one meaning must be followed" rule.
>
> Well, somewhat pedantically, I realize, the order does admit of two
> meanings: F Spa(nc) or F Spa(sc).


Which unlike the Bohemia/Silesia example cited earlier can *never* be occupied by differing units 
simultaneously.

Regards
Peter




  Having said that, I may well
> remove that provision from my house rules, as there seems to be a
> general consensus that a naked, coastal-less fleet order should be
> accepted unless the board situation is such that the order is clearly
> and hopelessly ambiguous (e.g. F MAO - Spa, or build F StP).
>
> I would still hope that players will just habitually use coasts for
> STP, SPA, and BUL, though.  It's four extra characters, even with the
> parentheses.  Just write it in and save the GM the added grief.  This
> is really a lazy player problem that gets foisted onto the GM, IMO,
> and we would never revive this debate if players just always wrote in
> the correct coast.  Period.
>
> -Adam
>
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