Re: What happened?

"David E Watson" <[email protected]> Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:57:21 -0000
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.cat23.gm
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Don't get me started on THAT one...
I HATE that!

Dave Watson

--- In [email protected], Michael Cuffaro <cuffaro@a...> wrote:
> one thing I noticed (and didn't like) is a GM advertising for a new 
game here, and then proceeding
> to play it on another forum without Ccing any of the Cat23 lists.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> --- stephen_worthy <stephen@w...> wrote:
> > A quick look at the message numbers on each mailing list makes it 
> > obvious there's a decline from 2001 (90% decrease on GM, 69% on 
> > ngame, 81% on dipknights), although interestingly G-chat has held 
> > pretty firm at 500-600 messages a year.
> > 
> > I don't read that one myself, so I wouldn't know why that is.  
> > Perhaps it suggests that the community's still there, but the 
need to 
> > e-mail so much is less.  For myself, e-mailing a diplomacy 
community 
> > had novelty value back then, but now it's simply functional.
> > 
> > Has anyone noticed a reduction in take-up and replacements on 
their 
> > games?  I've run about three games a year and never noticed much 
> > variation.
> > 
> > Stephen
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Peter J Richardson" 
<pjrich@n...> 
> > wrote:
> > > I think that maybe there was a wide influx of players into the 
> > internet hobby three and four years ago as a result
> > > of the internet becoming widely available, and the fact that 
the 
> > internet now *is* widely available that influx of
> > > people who are new to the internet finding that diplomacy can 
be 
> > played here is now reduced.
> > > 
> > > Of the large intake of three years ago, I would suggest quite a 
> > number are like Charles, they tried it, they took on
> > > a big game load and they burned themselves out.
> > > 
> > > In addition to that, as broadband becomes more popular it may 
be 
> > that communities like Redscape which are web rather
> > > than E-mail based become more popular.
> > > 
> > > So in summary I think there is an element of truth in both of 
> > Charles' and Ray's suggestions.
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > Peter
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David E. Cohen" <zendip18@o...>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:35 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [CAT23-GM] What happened?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Welcome back Charles.  I agree with you.  The various Cat23 
lists 
> > are
> > > > quieter than they were a couple or three years ago.  Maybe it 
is 
> > people
> > > > drifting into other groups (and it seems as though there are 
many 
> > people
> > > > who were once mainly Cat23 types who are now active in 
multiple 
> > forums),
> > > > or it may be due in part to the continuing success of the 
> > Worldmasters
> > > > (60 or 70 games and questions arising from them not on the 
regular
> > > > lists, but rather in the Tournament lists).
> > > >
> > > > mczet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >No, its still pretty active. Games start quite regularly. 
Normal 
> > ebb and
> > > > >flow I'd say.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Charles Schmidt" <chaschmidt@y...>
> > > > >To: <[email protected]>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:09 PM
> > > > >Subject: [CAT23-GM] What happened?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>Howdy there. Some of y'all may remember me from when I was 
a 
> > heavy
> > > > >>regular around here a few years ago. I've completely 
avoided 
> > Dipping
> > > > >>for the past two years or so (serious case of burnout), and 
have
> > > > >>only just come back to the Cat in the past few days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I couldn't help but notice that in the time since I left the
> > > > >>activity on Cat boards like NGame and GM has gone way, way 
> > down. I
> > > > >>always knew I was a popular guy, but it's pretty surprising 
to 
> > see
> > > > >>everyone else leaving just cuz I did. ;^)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Seriously though, what happened around here? Was there some 
> > short of
> > > > >>shakedown and mass exodus of people? Is the Cat really less 
> > active
> > > > >>than it used to be, or am I missing something?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Charles
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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