Re: The Life of the Cat
The White Wolf <[email protected]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:15:56 -0700 (PDT)
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Scott, I definitely had my facts wrong in my last email. Now that you mention it, I remember Halisp clearly. My first game in the community was 148. I played under the pseudonym 'Blackhole', and a school buddy played alongside me as 'Big Blue'. I wish I could remember what countries we played or if we even finished the game, but I remember also joining (I believe) 150 before I dropped off the radar. I don't think I rediscovered the community until the 4 or 500's, but I have a vague memory of playing in some of the 7 and 800 series games. Hell, I'm still subscribed to the 800 and 900 lists. Thanks for the history rundown - it will certainly help us paint a picture of the Cat's bright and varied history. The White Wolf --- Scott Fort <[email protected]> wrote: > I know I'm probably a stranger to most of you due to > recent inactivity but I go back to the Halisp list > days in early 1999. I think Dip410 was my first > playing experience as a replacement and I was a bit > overwhelmed for my first gamestart in Dip431, a > World variant by Joe Janbu. Sadly my Argentina > never got to ally with or mix it up with Dave > Watson's Mexico. Anyway.... Real Life has kept me > from playing for a while but I've stayed subscribed > because I knew this was one of the places I wanted > to come back to when my schedule allowed. I've > lurked and read emails when the subject catches my > eye. Kinda like now. > > I hadn't realized activities had dwindled enough to > threaten the demise of CAT23 and I'm glad there is a > core group of you talking about how to fix this. > I've caught up on all the emails and I'm afraid I > don't have any fresh ideas but I want to throw my > hat in the ring as a volunteer in some type of > maintenance capacity. In the meantime I wanted to > put down some of what I remember about our history. > It's one of the reasons I'm partial to CAT23 and > want to keep it active. I consider it the first > online Diplomacy community. I also remember CAT23 > being the birthplace of the WorldMasters back in > 1999. If it is not then my impression is such due > to my being recruited to help from the CAT lists. > > My knowledge of the early days is scarce and > second-hand but I hope it's a start to build upon. > CAT23 was originally an online Diplomacy forum on > Compuserve and it's designation was 'Category 23' or > CAT23 for short. I don't know how long it existed > on Compuserve but that came to an end for some > reason. The interest of the participants was still > high so they found another host. I was never clear > on what Halisp was but I had the impression it was a > company that donated it's service to us. I remember > the email for the main list was [email protected] > and there was at least one other list for chat > and/or admin. By 1999 there had been over 400 games > on Compuserve and Halisp and the community was > growing. I believe we were becoming too large for > the provider to continue to donate their services > and a new home had to be found. I lost my hard > drive in the 'crash of '03' and don't have a hard > record of the changes during this time but IIRC the > service we landed on initially was Onelist but they > changed to E-groups which was then bought by Yahoo. > Several companion groups were set up over the years > like the DipKnights and the GM-Mentors. And a > standardized set of rules for PBEM play was > developed. I know more people deserve credit but > the names I associate with these projects are Dave > Watson, Libby McAfee and David Cohen. Peter > Richardson and Steph Mabie were also involved with > the DipKnights. I think it was Peter Richardson and > Ted Miller who ran the first couple of WorldMasters > tournaments. I see Packrat is still active. Scott > deserves a lot of credit as a DipKnights in taking > over what seemed like hudreds of abandoned > positions. Peter also had a periodic Dreathwatch > report which tried to revive games abandoned by a > GM. And I'm sure a lot more has gone on of which I > don't even have an inkling. Certainly Ray Setzer > did a mountain of behind-the-scenes work. I know > Ray has moved on but I bet he'd answer some > questions for us and help construct a definitive > history. I see now that I am woefully unfit for the > task. > > If we can truly lay claim to the first online > Diplomacy community then I think that is a worthy > enough reason to keep the CAT23 name. We can > certainly lengthen it though. If people are looking > to play Diplomacy then it will help to have a group > name with 'Diplomacy' in it. > > Scott Fort I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction: http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping