Re: Throwing the game.

"Been Chissled" <[email protected]> Tue, 28 Dec 2010 18:18:51 -0000
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.judge.dp.discussion
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I have done my homework I can recreate this effect.
--- In [email protected], Chris Babcock <cbabcock@...> wrote:
>
> Of course the bells and whistles that would say if the two players are on
> the same computer are not being tripped. They aren't even on the same
> continent! One of the accused is logging in from a commercial ISP in a
> European country and the other from a North American university. This
> information is in the access file which the GM can access through the
> website.
> 
> (I have access to the judge through the file system, which is why I don't
> play there.)
> 
> Signoff
> Chris
> --
> IT security in 2020 will be less about protecting you from traditional bad
> guys, and more about protecting corporate business models from you.
>   -- Bruce Schneier
> 
> On Dec 21, 2010 8:19 AM, "Been Chissled" <kirman36@...> wrote:
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> I am not accusing Thorin of cheating.  I am saying the whistles and bells
> that show someone is on the same computer are not being tripped.  I have
> noticed that Italy and Austria in Owls 244 never send press around the same
> time.  Further look at the moves of the Italian player, with infuses on 1910
> retreat.  Follow that up with the, HHMM HHMMM, missed moves the next season
> and Italy logging in 40 min after the moves go through.  I can understand
> your Idea that you can't tell from moves alone if someone is cheating but
> there is other suspicious activity.  I have over 20 games completed in the
> owls league and played in 3 tourneys, I don't throw this accusation out
> willy nilly. I am not , I repeat, Not accusing Thorin in anyway of cheating.
>  I am stating I don't think this was looked into very much.  On this I could
> be wrong.  Anyway can anyone explain to me why Italy would throw the game to
> Austria when he is not in danger of being eliminated and it wasn't used as a
> threat in a
>  nyway????  I understand getting blown out and saying if you keep attacking
> me I have no course but to throw my lot in with whomever?  This never
> happened.  It reminds me of the line from Doctor Strange Love.  If you build
> a dooms day device in order for it to work you have to tell the world.  Well
> anyway this has massively turned me off to Diplomacy on line.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Jerrod Hansen <jhansen@> wrote:
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> > Nice sig. Me loves some Bruc...
> > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Chris Babcock <cbabcock@>wrote:
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> > > I don't know why some players remain convinced that their subjective
> view
> > > of the ...
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> > > On Dec 20, 2010 5:20 PM, "Been Chissled" <kirman36@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I gues he doesn't hav...
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