Re: To All Diplomacy Enthusiasts Who Enjoy Variants
Mark Arvidson <[email protected]> Sun, 26 Jan 2014 06:25:32 -0800 (PST)
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--1266411200-1601242131-1390746332=:80995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would love to, but time is ridiculously limited for the next several weeks= =E2=80=A6 =C2=A0Keep me posted. -Mark On Saturday, January 25, 2014 4:34 PM, Vi-Jai-eN <[email protected]= m> wrote: =20 =C2=A0=20 Hello Baron, I'll be happy to participate and contribute. Cheers, vj On Monday, 13 January 2014, 14:02, VonPowell <[email protected]> wrote: =20 =C2=A0=20 My name is Baron (Von) Powell. I designed both the popular 1900 variant an= d, in coordination with Jeff Kase, the less well known, but generally well = acclaimed Ambition & Empire variant. Both of these variants are currently = available on DPJudge. I am writing to you now to offer you an opportunity = to play in or observe the second play test of College of Cardinals, a varia= nt that Tim Hayward and I have spent nearly five years working on. College of Cardinals starts in the year 1170 (i.e., between the Second and = Third Crusades). It is a twelve player variant that pits the following Pow= ers against each other for control of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle = East: - The Almohad Caliphate - The Angevin Empire (England) - The Ayyubid Sultanate - The Kingdom of Castile - The Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium) - The Kingdom of France - The Holy Roman Empire - The Kingdom of Hungary - Kievan Rus' - The Duchy of Masovia (Poland) - The Kingdom of Sicily - The Zengid Emirate College of Cardinals is most certainly NOT simply a map variant. Instead i= t has a number of special rules that Tim and I included to give players a g= ood feeling of the political and religious challenges the ruling Monarchs o= f the Crusader era experienced. These special rules include: - Armed neutrals. Borrowing from a rule Jeff and I included in Ambition & = Empire, each of the twenty-six minor powers start the game with an army or = a fleet. Major Powers will not be able to simply walk into a minor power s= upply center (SC). Instead, a Major Power army or fleet must attack with s= upport. Minor power units can hold in place, provide support, or sortie (i= .e., the minor power unit may move into an adjacent territory for purposes = of cutting support or blocking movement, but must end its turn on its own h= ome SC). - Diplomacy points (DPs). Again borrowing from Ambition & Empire, the Majo= r Powers can gain control of minor power units by using DPs. Each Major Po= wer controls one DP for each SC it controls, up to a maximum of three. - Religious conflict. As in Ambition & Empire, the religion of each Major = and minor power constrains what support they can provide to each other. Ev= en within these constraints, however, there are ample opportunities for mis= chief. - Chaos builds. Standard Diplomacy and many variant limit builds to contro= lled home SCs. The rationale behind this restriction simply does not exist= in a variant that takes place in the 12th and 13th centuries. College of = Cardinals allows builds in any controlled SC. - Limitations on the Holy Roman Empire. At first glance, the Holy Roman Em= pire appears quite formidable. Looks can be deceiving, though. The Holy R= oman Empire starts the game under restrictions that simulate the problems t= he Emperor faced in 1170. - The Pope. A decade in College of Cardinals is the equivalent of a game-y= ear in standard Diplomacy. At the end of each decade, the players in charg= e of Catholic Major Powers elect one from their number to be the Pope for t= he next decade. The Pope wields considerable diplomatic clout because he c= ontrols Papal DPs and can call for crusades. - Crusades. A variant on the Crusader era would not be complete without th= e ability to conduct crusades. A mechanism is in place that allows the Pop= e to declare crusades against enemies of Catholic Europe if certain events = occur. The Pope can also declare crusades against Catholic Monarchs that b= reak Church laws. - Excommunication. Excommunication is a severe penalty that all Catholic M= onarchs should strive to avoid, as the consequences are dire. As the above list of special rules suggest, College of Cardinals is more co= mplicated than standard Diplomacy. I do not doubt this complexity will tur= n off many potential players. That said, I believe those players willing t= o give the variant a try will find that the special rules accomplish exactl= y what Tim and I hoped they would, namely create countless opportunities fo= r intrigue and deception, increase the need for all players to communicate = with each other, and create an environment that accurately captures the fee= l of the Crusader era. Tim and I wrote the College of Cardinals rules carefully so that they expla= in the special rules clearly. We have put numerous examples in each sectio= n to show players how certain rules work in practice. We have also include= d considerable historical commentary to help put some of the variant rules = in context. The first College of Cardinals play test, which took place from February th= rough July of 2013, was a success in our opinion because it showed that our= game mechanisms worked as we intended them to. Player feedback from that = play test and our own observations helped us identify a few areas in the ru= les that required clarification to remove ambiguity and prompted us to exam= ine some new ideas we could install to enhance the overall play balance (wh= ich was not far off in the first place). As I mentioned earlier, we plan on running a second play test of the varian= t in the very near future. The target date to start the game is 11 Februar= y 2014. The equivalent of Spring moves (i.e., Early Decade) will be due on= Tuesdays, Summer retreats (i.e., Mid-Decade) on Thursdays, Fall moves (i.e= ., Late Decade) on Tuesdays, and Winter adjustments (i.e., End Decade) on T= hursdays. I will serve as GM. If the last game is an example, we anticipa= te the game lasting four to six months. We are looking for players who enjoy the give and take of negotiations, who= are willing to devote the time to play well, and who see things through fr= om start to finish. If you are interested in playing, serving as a stand-b= y, or observing, please contact me at [email protected]. I will provide yo= u with a copy of the map, the variant rules, and my house rules. I look forward to hearing from you. Happy Stabbing, Baron --1266411200-1601242131-1390746332=:80995 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- /* start of attachment style */ .ygrp-photo-title{ clear: both; font-size: smaller; height: 15px; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; width: 75px; } div.ygrp-photo{ background-position: center; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-color: white; border: 1px solid black; height: 62px; width: 62px; } div.photo-title=20 a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none;=20 } div.attach-table div.attach-row { clear: both; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div { float: left; /* margin: 2px;*/ } p { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } div.ygrp-file { width: 30px; valign: middle; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div span { font-weight: normal; } div.ygrp-file-title { font-weight: bold; } /* end of attachment style */ --> </style> </head> <html><body> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue,= Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt= "><div><span>Would love to, but time is ridiculously limited for the next s= everal weeks=E2=80=A6 Keep me posted.</span></div><div style=3D"color= : rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neu= e', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transp= arent; font-style: normal;"><span>-Mark</span></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quo= ted" style=3D"display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style=3D"font-family: Helvet= icaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; f= ont-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue= ', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div d= ir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 = 4:34 PM, Vi-Jai-eN <[email protected]> wrote:<br> </font> </= div>=20 <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv4413084646"><div> <span style=3D"display:none;"> </span> <div id=3D"yiv4413084646ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D""> <div id=3D"yiv4413084646ygrp-msg" style=3D""> <div id=3D"yiv4413084646ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 25= 5); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida= Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div><span>Hello Baron,</span></div= ><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica= Neue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; back= ground-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br clear=3D"none"><span></= span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family:= HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-s= erif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I'll be hap= py to participate and contribute.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0= , 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvet= ica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; fon= t-style: normal;"><br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div><div style=3D"color= : rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue= ', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transpa= rent; font-style: normal;"><span>Cheers, vj<br clear=3D"none"></span></div>= <div class=3D"yiv4413084646yqt6363494302" id=3D"yiv4413084646yqt27721"><div= class=3D"yiv4413084646yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <br clear= =3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'H= elvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 1= 2pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetic= a, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr">= <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Monday, 13 January 2014, 14:02, VonPow= ell <[email protected]> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div> <di= v class=3D"yiv4413084646y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv4413084646"><div> <span> </span> <div id=3D"yiv4413084646ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"yiv4413084646ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"yiv4413084646ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <div>My name is Baron (Von) Powell. I designed both the popular 1900= variant and, in coordination with Jeff Kase, the less well known, but gene= rally well acclaimed Ambition & Empire variant. Both of these variants= are currently available on DPJudge. I am writing to you now to offer you = an opportunity to play in or observe the second play test of College of Car= dinals, a variant that Tim Hayward and I have spent nearly five years worki= ng on.<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> College of Cardinals starts in the year 1170 (i.e., between the Second and = Third Crusades). It is a twelve player variant that pits the following Pow= ers against each other for control of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle = East:<br clear=3D"none"> - The Almohad Caliphate<br clear=3D"none"> - The Angevin Empire (England)<br clear=3D"none"> - The Ayyubid Sultanate<br clear=3D"none"> - The Kingdom of Castile<br clear=3D"none"> - The Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium)<br clear=3D"none"> - The Kingdom of France<br clear=3D"none"> - The Holy Roman Empire<br clear=3D"none"> - The Kingdom of Hungary<br clear=3D"none"> - Kievan Rus'<br clear=3D"none"> - The Duchy of Masovia (Poland)<br clear=3D"none"> - The Kingdom of Sicily<br clear=3D"none"> - The Zengid Emirate<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> College of Cardinals is most certainly NOT simply a map variant. Instead i= t has a number of special rules that Tim and I included to give players a g= ood feeling of the political and religious challenges the ruling Monarchs o= f the Crusader era experienced. These special rules include:<br clear=3D"n= one"> - Armed neutrals. Borrowing from a rule Jeff and I included in Ambition &= amp; Empire, each of the twenty-six minor powers start the game with an arm= y or a fleet. Major Powers will not be able to simply walk into a minor po= wer supply center (SC). Instead, a Major Power army or fleet must attack w= ith support. Minor power units can hold in place, provide support, or sort= ie (i.e., the minor power unit may move into an adjacent territory for purp= oses of cutting support or blocking movement, but must end its turn on its = own home SC).<br clear=3D"none"> - Diplomacy points (DPs). Again borrowing from Ambition & Empire, the= Major Powers can gain control of minor power units by using DPs. Each Maj= or Power controls one DP for each SC it controls, up to a maximum of three.= <br clear=3D"none"> - Religious conflict. As in Ambition & Empire, the religion of each M= ajor and minor power constrains what support they can provide to each other= . Even within these constraints, however, there are ample opportunities fo= r mischief.<br clear=3D"none"> - Chaos builds. Standard Diplomacy and many variant limit builds to contr= olled home SCs. The rationale behind this restriction simply does not exis= t in a variant that takes place in the 12th and 13th centuries. College of= Cardinals allows builds in any controlled SC.<br clear=3D"none"> - Limitations on the Holy Roman Empire. At first glance, the Holy Roman E= mpire appears quite formidable. Looks can be deceiving, though. The Holy = Roman Empire starts the game under restrictions that simulate the problems = the Emperor faced in 1170.<br clear=3D"none"> - The Pope. A decade in College of Cardinals is the equivalent of a game-= year in standard Diplomacy. At the end of each decade, the players in char= ge of Catholic Major Powers elect one from their number to be the Pope for = the next decade. The Pope wields considerable diplomatic clout because he = controls Papal DPs and can call for crusades.<br clear=3D"none"> - Crusades. A variant on the Crusader era would not be complete without t= he ability to conduct crusades. A mechanism is in place that allows the Po= pe to declare crusades against enemies of Catholic Europe if certain events= occur. The Pope can also declare crusades against Catholic Monarchs that = break Church laws.<br clear=3D"none"> - Excommunication. Excommunication is a severe penalty that all Catholic = Monarchs should strive to avoid, as the consequences are dire.<br clear=3D"= none"> <br clear=3D"none"> As the above list of special rules suggest, College of Cardinals is more co= mplicated than standard Diplomacy. I do not doubt this complexity will tur= n off many potential players. That said, I believe those players willing t= o give the variant a try will find that the special rules accomplish exactl= y what Tim and I hoped they would, namely create countless opportunities fo= r intrigue and deception, increase the need for all players to communicate = with each other, and create an environment that accurately captures the fee= l of the Crusader era.<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> Tim and I wrote the College of Cardinals rules carefully so that they expla= in the special rules clearly. We have put numerous examples in each sectio= n to show players how certain rules work in practice. We have also include= d considerable historical commentary to help put some of the variant rules = in context.<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> The first College of Cardinals play test, which took place from February th= rough July of 2013, was a success in our opinion because it showed that our= game mechanisms worked as we intended them to. Player feedback from that = play test and our own observations helped us identify a few areas in the ru= les that required clarification to remove ambiguity and prompted us to exam= ine some new ideas we could install to enhance the overall play balance (wh= ich was not far off in the first place).<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> As I mentioned earlier, we plan on running a second play test of the varian= t in the very near future. The target date to start the game is 11 Februar= y 2014. The equivalent of Spring moves (i.e., Early Decade) will be due on= Tuesdays, Summer retreats (i.e., Mid-Decade) on Thursdays, Fall moves (i.e= ., Late Decade) on Tuesdays, and Winter adjustments (i.e., End Decade) on T= hursdays. I will serve as GM. If the last game is an example, we anticipa= te the game lasting four to six months.<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> We are looking for players who enjoy the give and take of negotiations, who= are willing to devote the time to play well, and who see things through fr= om start to finish. If you are interested in playing, serving as a stand-b= y, or observing, please contact me at [email protected]. I will provide yo= u with a copy of the map, the variant rules, and my house rules.<br clear= =3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> I look forward to hearing from you.<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> Happy Stabbing,<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> Baron<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> </div> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;height:0;"></div></div> </div></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div> </div> </div> </= div> </div></div></div> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div class=3D"yiv4413084646yqt6363494302" id=3D"yiv4413084646yqt52557">= <div style=3D"color:#fff;height:0;"></div></div> </div><div class=3D"yiv4413084646yqt6363494302" id=3D"yiv4413084646yqt87159= "><style type=3D"text/css"> #yiv4413084646 #yiv4413084646 -- #yiv4413084646ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv4413084646 #yiv4413084646ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv4413084646 #yiv4413084646ygrp-mkp 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