Re: Re: Fw: [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End Proposal

"Peter J Richardson" <pjrich-XZoyATsUNX5Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Sat, 8 Jan 2005 16:56:09 -0000
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That'll be why I've not heard it then. :-)


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sal


  It's a line from a movie.
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    From: bcranie=20
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    Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:06 PM
    Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Re: Fw: [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End Pro=
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    Egg Unless you as a studier of history have uncovered some new evidence=
 then I will go with the popular belief that Japan bombed pearl harbour :-)
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Egbert Ferreira=20
      To: [email protected]=20
      Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:38 PM
      Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Re: Fw: [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End P=
roposal


      ouch...  As as history studier I must say that it doesnt make ANY sen=
se!!! ;-)))

      [ ]=B4s
      Egg

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        From: bcranie=20
        To: [email protected]=20
        Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:36 PM
        Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Re: Fw: [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End=
 Proposal


        >>Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?

        Sneaky Luftwaffe :-)

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          From: Adam P.. Silverman=20
          To: [email protected]=20
          Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:16 AM
          Subject: [wm02-chat] Re: Fw: [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End P=
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          As the wimp who proposed the Russian solo, I'd like to protest be=
ing=20
          called a wimp.  Err...

          Let me just say that, after all, it was giving up after 1903 in m=
y=20
          previous games that got me this far, so why not see where it gets=
 me=20
          this time.=20=20

          Come on now, we all know its not going to pass.  Over?  Its not=20
          over.  Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?  No.  Th=
is=20
          isnt over.

          -Adam

          --- In [email protected], "Peter J Richardson" <pjrich@n.=
..>=20
          wrote:
          > Somebody wants to throw in the towel in a *final* in 1903?
          >=20
          > What wimps. :-)
          >=20
          > Regards
          > Peter
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          >=20
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          > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:34 PM
          > Subject: [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End Proposal
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          > >
          > > There has been a proposal to concede a solo to Russia.
          > >
          > > Votes must be submitted by the F03A deadline, which will be=20
          Friday night,
          > > some time around 21:30 GMT.
          > >
          > > So that everyone is clear on the rules...
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          > > (1) Voting Rules:
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          > > All players remaining in the game must agree upon a proposal=
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          > > single negative vote will defeat the proposal. Either an=20
          abstention or an
          > > unclear vote counts as a negative vote and defeats the propos=
al,=20
          except for
          > > a game end proposal when the vote deadline coincides with a=20
          movement
          > > deadline and the player also NMRs, in which case an uncast vo=
te=20
          will be
          > > deemed to be a vote in favour of the proposal. Where a vote i=
s=20
          sufficiently
          > > vague as to make its intent unclear then the GM will treat it=
 as=20
          an uncast
          > > vote.
          > >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That'll be why I've not heard it then.=20
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  [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End Proposal</DIV>
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  <DIV>It's a line from a movie.</DIV>
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    [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End Proposal</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Egg Unless you as a studier of history=
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    uncovered some new evidence then I will go with the popular belief that=
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    Japan bombed pearl harbour :-)</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 07, 2005=
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      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [wm02-chat] Re: F=
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      [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End Proposal</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ouch...&nbsp; As as history studier =
I must=20
      say that it doesnt make ANY sense!!! ;-)))</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>[ ]=B4s</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Egg</FONT></DIV>
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        PM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [wm02-chat] Re:=
 Fw:=20
        [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End Proposal</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">&gt;&gt;Was it over when the German=
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        bombed Pearl Harbour?</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">Sneaky Luftwaffe :-)</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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          <A title=3Dagman1010-/[email protected] href=3D"mailto:agman1010-/[email protected]=
">Adam=20
          P.. Silverman</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
          [email protected]=20
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om</A>=20
          </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 07, =
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          12:16 AM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [wm02-chat] Re: F=
w:=20
          [wm2002-results] WM02FINL Game End Proposal</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV><TT><BR>As the wimp who proposed the Russian solo,=
 I'd=20
          like to protest being <BR>called a wimp.&nbsp; Err...<BR><BR>Let =
me=20
          just say that, after all, it was giving up after 1903 in my=20
          <BR>previous games that got me this far, so why not see where it =
gets=20
          me <BR>this time.&nbsp; <BR><BR>Come on now, we all know its not =
going=20
          to pass.&nbsp; Over?&nbsp; Its not <BR>over.&nbsp; Was it over wh=
en=20
          the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; This <BR>isnt=20
          over.<BR><BR>-Adam<BR><BR>--- In [email protected], "Pete=
r J=20
          Richardson" &lt;pjrich@n...&gt; <BR>wrote:<BR>&gt; Somebody wants=
 to=20
          throw in the towel in a *final* in 1903?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; What wi=
mps.=20
          :-)<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Regards<BR>&gt; Peter<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&=
gt;=20
          <BR>&gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; From: "Paul Riley"=
=20
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          &lt;agman@s...&gt;; "'Bruce Mount'" <BR>&lt;brucemount@a...&gt;;=
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          &lt;jonilaserson@h...&gt;; "'Julio Pereira'" &lt;julio@b...&gt;;=
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          "'Paul <BR>Riley'" &lt;paul.riley@s...&gt;;<BR>&gt; "'Robert K=F6=
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          &lt;koehnen@u...&gt;; "'Rudi van Hal'" <BR>&lt;r.a.j.vanhal@c...&=
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          "'Steve Langdon'"<BR>&gt; &lt;swlangdon@y...&gt;; "'WM2002 Result=
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          &lt;wm2002-<BR>[email protected]&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: Wednesda=
y,=20
          January 05, 2005 9:34 PM<BR>&gt; Subject: [wm2002-results] WM02FI=
NL=20
          Game End Proposal<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; The=
re=20
          has been a proposal to concede a solo to Russia.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>=
&gt;=20
          &gt; Votes must be submitted by the F03A deadline, which will be=
=20
          <BR>Friday night,<BR>&gt; &gt; some time around 21:30 GMT.<BR>&gt=
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          &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; So that everyone is clear on the rules...<BR>&g=
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          &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; (1) Voting Rules:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; All=
=20
          players remaining in the game must agree upon a proposal=20
          <BR>unanimously. A<BR>&gt; &gt; single negative vote will defeat =
the=20
          proposal. Either an <BR>abstention or an<BR>&gt; &gt; unclear vot=
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