Re: Checking In, Vulkan

Scott Giese <[email protected]> Fri, 31 Jul 2026 17:11:52 -0500
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FYI, I'm not using Bevy.  Others can experiment in that direction if 
they want.

Scott

On 7/31/26 3:56 AM, James Turner wrote:
>
>
>> On 31 Jul 2026, at 09:14, Richard Harrison <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, steady on there. Something being in Rust is usually a good 
>> thing; in the last 12 months I've done a lot of stuff in Rust and 
>> really like it.
>>
> It was a joke, I’m also using Rust at work and while there’s things I 
> hate, it also has plenty of good stuff.
>
> But, that clippy guy, he hates me :)
>>
>> Having done this I do have to say that it usually isn't very easy, 
>> but given that the alternative is rewriting FlightGear in Rust I 
>> guess linking C++ and Rust becomes simple by comparison.
>>
> My guess/thought is to write a Bevy renderer that talks to FGFS using 
> DDS: we already have CycloneDDS from Erik in the C++ side, and Rust 
> has a DDS implant as well. The major missing piece is to port the XML 
> animation loading code and effects/pass loading : then our existing 
> data should load in ‘fine’. Oh, and to write a Bevy loader for the VPB 
> format.
>
> As you say, doing a combined binary is possible, but doing a 
> standalone renderer in Rust is just easier and more decoupled.
>
> Kind regards,
> James
>
>
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    <p>FYI, I'm not using Bevy.  Others can experiment in that direction
      if they want.</p>
    <p>Scott</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/31/26 3:56 AM, James Turner wrote:<br>
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          <div>On 31 Jul 2026, at 09:14, Richard Harrison
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              <p>Hey, steady on there. Something being in Rust is
                usually a good thing; in the last 12 months I've done a
                lot of stuff in Rust and really like it.</p>
            </div>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <div>It was a joke, I’m also using Rust at work and while
          there’s things I hate, it also has plenty of good stuff.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>But, that clippy guy, he hates me :)</div>
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              <p>Having done this I do have to say that it usually isn't
                very easy, but given that the alternative is rewriting
                FlightGear in Rust I guess linking C++ and Rust becomes
                simple by comparison.</p>
            </div>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        My guess/thought is to write a Bevy renderer that talks to FGFS
        using DDS: we already have CycloneDDS from Erik in the C++ side,
        and Rust has a DDS implant as well. The major missing piece is
        to port the XML animation loading code and effects/pass loading
        : then our existing data should load in ‘fine’. Oh, and to write
        a Bevy loader for the VPB format. </div>
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      <div>As you say, doing a combined binary is possible, but doing a
        standalone renderer in Rust is just easier and more decoupled.</div>
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      <div>Kind regards,</div>
      <div>James</div>
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