Re: Force instead of lift
"Oleksiy Frolov" <[email protected]> Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:04:02 -0400
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Thank you. You are right, I meant the <force> clause in the external force section. Thank you for the links, I will study your work on this issue. With best regards, Oleksiy Frolov > On Friday 30 September 2011 13:43:24 Oleksiy Frolov wrote: >> Hello >> >> I am trying to simulate the effects of the differential wing lift. Such >> as single wing stall due to the propwash loss at a low speed, and the >> effect of the icing on a single wing (which can happen during a deicing >> failure on that wing). All of these are important aerodynamic effects. >> >> Now, we know we only have one wing in jsbsim currently, not 2. My idea >> is >> therefor to try using 2 <force> records to simulate the wings >> separately, >> instead of the usual CL record. >> This however would require some kind of algorithm to define how the >> force >> origin moves to overlay with center of lift for each wing, which is >> probably not an easy task >> >> I was wondering if anyone have tried a similar approach before, and if >> this problem pechaps has an easier solution ? >> >> Thank you >> >> regards, >> Oleksiy Frolov > > A better place to ask might be on the JSBSim user list > JSBSim user questions <[email protected]> > > In the aerodynamics section of a JSBSim configuration you are only allowed > one > force vector, applied at aerorp, and consisting of lift, drag and side or > normal, axial and side. You can also specify the moments for yaw, pitch > and > roll. > > An alternative is to use the 'external force' section of JSBSim. This > allows > you to specify an arbitrary number of forces, each of which can be applied > at > separate points on the airframe and can be computed in different axis > systems. > > I've played a little with doing the vertical stabilizer as external forces > in > the JSBSim config I did for the Gloster Meteor: > https://gitorious.org/ron-s-hanger/gloster-meteor > > The JSBSim config is here: > https://gitorious.org/ron-s-hanger/gloster-meteor/blobs/master/gloster-meteor-jsb.xml > And the systems file that computes the external force is here: > https://gitorious.org/ron-s-hanger/gloster-meteor/blobs/master/Systems/external_reactions.xml > > This was a quick exercise, and I didn't fully validate the trig used to > compute the axial/normal/side components. > > Ron > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > _______________________________________________ > Flightgear-flightmodel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-flightmodel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2