Re: 2008 Retrospective - Results

"Wei-Hwa Huang [email protected] [spielfrieks]" <[email protected]> Sat, 21 Jul 2018 11:26:46 -0700
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I discussed this with Donald a few years back.  The problem with more
"regular cards" is that there actually aren't that many more "regular
cards" that are publishable.  One general design rule he's trying to adhere
to is that there shouldn't be any cards that are strictly weaker or
strictly stronger than another card of the same price.  For example,
consider the "regular card" that's +1 money, +1 Card, +1 Action.  This card
should cost something like 3.8.  You can't release it as a 3-cost card
because it's clearly better than a lot of other 3-cost cards.  You can't
release it as a 4-cost card because it's worse.  If you look at all the
4-cost cards throughout the expansion, you'll see that there are a lot of
cards that are actually this card but with a little bit of a bonus that
gets it to the 4-cost threshold.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Jacob Lee [email protected]
[spielfrieks] <[email protected]> wrote:

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> I love Dominion!  But it's time for the designer to stop changing the game
> so much with each new expansion and just give us new "regular" cards if you
> know what I mean.  I just want more of the same.  I think it would sell.
>
> 2003? . . . The years don't mean much to me, but bring it on!
>
> Jacob
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> On 20 July 2018 at 09:16, [email protected] [spielfrieks] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>> So 50 people voted in our latest retrospective, which is great support.
>> The results showed much less change than they did for 2013.  Here's the top
>> 10, together with their vote totals, and with the original place given in
>> parentheses (n/a means that the game wasn't nominated the first time
>> around):
>>
>>
>> 1. Dominion - 24 (1)
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>> 2. Pandemic - 20 (2)
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>> 3. Le Havre - 11 (3)
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>> 3. Stone Age - 11 (4)
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>> 5. Dixit - 10 (n/a)
>>
>> 6. Chicago Express - 7 (5)
>>
>> 6. Tinners' Trail - 7 (9)
>>
>> 8. Battlestar Galactica - 5 (6)
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>> 8. Snow Tails - 5 (6)
>>
>> 10. Nefertiti - 4 (n/a)
>>
>> 10. Time's Up! Title Recall - 4 (n/a)
>>
>>
>> As you can see, not much shifting around.  Dominion and Pandemic remain
>> the two dominant titles of the year, probably to the surprise of no one.  8
>> of the original top 10 are still in the current top 10 and the other two
>> (Ghost Stories and Diamonds Club) finished tied for 12th.  There were two
>> interesting developments.  Even though Le Havre once again finished third,
>> it dropped down quite a bit from the original election--back then, it gave
>> Dominion and Pandemic a run for their money, but this time around, it wound
>> up tied with the original fourth place finisher, Stone Age, on which it had
>> a big lead during the first election.  The other item of note is Dixit,
>> which wasn't even nominated originally, but which just missed finishing in
>> the top three, and which had a nice lead on the rest of the field.  I
>> haven't seen or heard of a game of Dixit in 7 or 8 years in my games
>> groups, but it's obviously popular elsewhere.
>>
>>
>> 31 games got at least one vote.  The only ones which were shut out were
>> Municipium, Preussische Ostbahn, Say Anything, and Wealth of Nations.  You
>> can check out all the results, together with who voted for what, on the app.
>>
>>
>> Next on the dance card is 2003.  I'll check out the potential nominees
>> and get back to you in a little bit.  Thanks to everyone who participated!
>>
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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