Re: 2018 Meeple Choice Awards - Final Results

I agree with your past self! I rate 3 games a 10:
-Through the Ages
-Age of Steam (though that's a bit unfair since I'm really rating the
system, including all the expansions)
-Twilight Struggle
The New Story has only a few real rule changes, as well as a bunch of card
tweaks. But those rule changes have such an impact! Chvatil's changes in
the NEW game showed be that yes, the NEW game is a 10, but the OLD game is
really a 9.something!

I'd similarly vote to allow Power Grid and Brass: Birmingham to compete.

But Root should've won!

RP

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 7:16 PM Fritz mpefritz-/[email protected] [spielfrieks] <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> Oops. Maybe I did vote for TtA.
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> Odd.
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> I disagree with my past self.
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> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 6:13 PM, Fritz mpefritz-/[email protected] [spielfrieks]
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> We had the Through The Ages issue a few years ago. I think that people
> (okay, at least me who rates it a 10) determined that it was not
> sufficiently different to vote for it as a potential MCA winner.
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> I have not played Brass Birmingham, but it does sound sufficiently
> different that voting for it seems reasonable.
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> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 6:04 PM, Jonathan Franklin
> [email protected] [spielfrieks]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Getting sued for plagiarism is different from the community feeling it is
> plagiarism.  It might be reasonable to have a pre-MCAs poll on whether a
> game should be considered under this standard and let the group decide.
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> I can think of some recent cases where I really don't know which way the
> group would go.  We should have a rule that a tie-vote means it is 'in' or
> 'out'.
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> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 3:59 PM Jacob Lee [email protected]
> [spielfrieks] <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Exactly.  But the challenge becomes how to quantify in words the
> sufficient difference for two games to be independent of each other.
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> I don't think is the answer but if we were to speculate: could someone
> create Brass: Birmingham under a different title and not be sued for
> plagiarism by Martin Wallace?  I mean, if the answer is, yes, then hey
> let's give it the award!  But we may still argue amongst ourselves what the
> answer is without a more concrete definition.
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> Jacob
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> On Saturday, 29 June 2019, Clay Blankenship [email protected]
> [spielfrieks] <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I kind of think revised versions shouldn't be considered, unless it is
> just a huge change (like how Power Grid dispensed with the line drawing of
> original Funkenschlag).  The purpose of the award is to help people find
> new and worthy games, and I imagine people who have played the older
> Concordia or Brass probably pretty much know what to expect with the new
> ones.  (I haven't played the new ones so I might be wrong.)
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> Clay
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> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 1:41 PM Jacob Lee [email protected]
> [spielfrieks] <[email protected]> wrote:
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> First of all, thank you, Larry, for maintaining the fun and the binding us
> gamers together with these awards.
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> I did not vote for any of the winners (becoming a trend) and I'm starting
> to wonder if it's too difficult to play a sufficient number of the nominees
> now.  I know I can't get to half of them.  A discussion on reprints may
> also be warranted.  I consciously did not push any reprints or expansions..
> Obviously, others don't agree.  I really like Brass, but I refused to vote
> for Birmingham.  Same with Concordia.  I think there were a lot of games I
> excluded this way.  I hope I don't sound bitter because I'm not and I enjoy
> being surprised.  But my concerns are starting to become more pronounced
> each year.
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> Jacob
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> Clay Blankenship                     [email protected]
> "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing."  --Helen Keller
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