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Paul,
Yes, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-Ni1YEWUCxM
Sorry, I shouldn't have assumed it had been seen by all. Although I had
just confirmed Jeremy Howard's name right beforehand, by searching for Dice
Tower and Jeremy, so I'm surprised you didn't find it. Ah, well.
-Aaron
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 3:09 PM Paul Sauberer [email protected]
[spielfrieks] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Aaron,
>
> Do you have a link to the Dice Tower video with Jeremy Howard? My search
> and Google fu failed to find it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 4:50 PM Aaron Waters [email protected]
> [spielfrieks] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Larry, now I understand what you meant by your count of 6. The Wingspan
>> sweep was part of what motivated me to vote for the first time. I wanted=
to
>> help make sure something else at least had a fighting chance. I wouldn't
>> say I agree with Jeremy Howard in the Dice Tower video, but I was certai=
nly
>> happy to see him voice his opinion. I strongly disagree with him about
>> Friedmann, Terraforming Mars, and Underwater Cities, but still was glad =
he
>> didn't hold back and explained why.
>>
>> Jacob, yes voting was fun. I'm glad I did it. I felt the same way the on=
e
>> time I had a chance to vote for the Hugos. In that case, the nominees we=
re
>> known for long enough beforehand that I had had the time to read all of =
the
>> nominated novels and all but one of the nominated short stories, at leas=
t.
>> I think I had seen most if not all of the nominated movies as well. Ther=
e,
>> as here, I felt I shouldn't vote in any category where I had no real
>> knowledge of a majority of the nominees, because that, I feel, often lea=
ds
>> to winners of lower quality that happened to have more marketing support=
..
>> Case in point, in my opinion, was that American Gods, by Neil Gaiman, wo=
n
>> the Hugo the year I voted. It was a good book, but I think at least two =
of
>> the lesser known authors had better novels that year. Just my opinion.
>>
>> Anyway, I can't believe I overlooked Letter Jam. A good friend and one
>> time co-worker at my FLGS actually got a full time job here in the state=
s
>> working for CGE. He brought first prototype editions, and then early pri=
nt
>> run editions of that by the store and I played quite a few times. It is
>> also a very good game and if this vote had had a separate category for
>> family and/or party games, it might well have gotten one of my votes had=
I
>> voted in the finals. I'm pretty sure I did nominate it.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 7:51 AM Larry Levy [email protected]
>> [spielfrieks] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the note, Aaron. Yes, you could say that Wingspan finished
>>> first in 8 categories. I count the Game of the Year vote as the main o=
ne,
>>> so by my reckoning, it was GotY, plus 6 category winners (Strategy Game=
,
>>> Family Game, Card Game, Solo Game, Most Innovative, Best Artwork). The=
8th
>>> category, as you say, would be winning with the European expansion. No
>>> matter how you slice it, total dominance, which is why so many people
>>> assumed it would be a shoo-in to take one of the MCA slots.
>>>
>>> Anye, I haven't played Watergate. I rarely get much 2-player gaming in
>>> during the year since, unlike you, I'm the only gamer living in my hous=
e.
>>> :-( It's definitely one I'd like to try, since I'm a big fan of Cramer=
's
>>> and it's very well regarded.
>>>
>>> BTW, my three votes in the final election went to Barrage, Paladins of
>>> the West Kingdom, and Maracaibo. Barrage is so insanely good--it might=
be
>>> my favorite design from the past 5 years. Now I just need to learn to =
play
>>> it better! Up until now, I've found Shem Phillips' games to be pretty
>>> good, but nothing more, but Paladins struck a chord with me. Definitel=
y a
>>> gamer's game, with everything very tightly interwoven. And while Marac=
aibo
>>> might not be Pfister's best game, it might be the one that's the most f=
un
>>> to play. I definitely think it deserved to be one of our three winners=
..
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 9:59 AM Jacob Lee [email protected]
>>> [spielfrieks] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Welcome, Aaron! Wow, that's a long wait! Isn't voting fun?
>>>>
>>>> Anye, if I ever played 2p I would get Watergate. It looks really
>>>> good. I would probably consider it if an unofficial multiplayer varia=
nt
>>>> came out. Doesn't really work with the theme, though.
>>>>
>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> If kine is the plural of cow,
>> And the plural of sow is swine,
>> Then pumpkins may hang from a vow,
>> And coronets rest upon brine.
>> - Ambrose Bierce
>> Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go.
>> -Oscar Wilde
>>
>>
>>
>
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<p><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Paul,<br><br></div>Yes, here: <a href=
=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-Ni1YEWUCxM">https://www.youtube.com/=
watch?v=3D-Ni1YEWUCxM</a> <br><br></div><div>Sorry, I shouldn't have as=
sumed it had been seen by all. Although I had just confirmed Jeremy Howard&=
#39;s name right beforehand, by searching for Dice Tower and Jeremy, so I&#=
39;m surprised you didn't find it. Ah, well.</div><div><br></div><div>-=
Aaron<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 3:09 PM Paul Sauberer <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [spielfrieks] <=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Aaron,<div><br></div><div>Do you have a link to the Dice T=
ower video with Jeremy Howard? My search and Google fu failed to find it.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Paul</div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, =
Jun 27, 2020 at 4:50 PM Aaron Waters <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [spielfrieks] <<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">spielfrieks@yahoo=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Larry, now I understand what you meant by your c=
ount of 6. The Wingspan sweep was part of what motivated me to vote for the=
first time. I wanted to help make sure something else at least had a fight=
ing chance. I wouldn't say I agree with Jeremy Howard in the Dice Tower=
video, but I was certainly happy to see him voice his opinion. I strongly =
disagree with him about Friedmann, Terraforming Mars, and Underwater Cities=
, but still was glad he didn't hold back and explained why.<br><br></di=
v>Jacob, yes voting was fun. I'm glad I did it. I felt the same way the=
one time I had a chance to vote for the Hugos. In that case, the nominees =
were known for long enough beforehand that I had had the time to read all o=
f the nominated novels and all but one of the nominated short stories, at l=
east. I think I had seen most if not all of the nominated movies as well. T=
here, as here, I felt I shouldn't vote in any category where I had no r=
eal knowledge of a majority of the nominees, because that, I feel, often le=
ads to winners of lower quality that happened to have more marketing suppor=
t. Case in point, in my opinion, was that American Gods, by Neil Gaiman, wo=
n the Hugo the year I voted. It was a good book, but I think at least two o=
f the lesser known authors had better novels that year. Just my opinion.<br=
><br></div>Anyway, I can't believe I overlooked Letter Jam. A good frie=
nd and one time co-worker at my FLGS actually got a full time job here in t=
he states working for CGE. He brought first prototype editions, and then ea=
rly print run editions of that by the store and I played quite a few times.=
It is also a very good game and if this vote had had a separate category f=
or family and/or party games, it might well have gotten one of my votes had=
I voted in the finals. I'm pretty sure I did nominate it.<br></div><br=
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un 27, 2020 at 7:51 AM Larry Levy <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [spielfrieks] <<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for the note, Aaron.=C2=A0 Yes, you could say that =
Wingspan finished first in 8 categories.=C2=A0 I count the Game of the Year=
vote as the main one, so by my reckoning, it was GotY, plus 6 category win=
ners (Strategy Game, Family Game, Card Game, Solo Game, Most Innovative, Be=
st Artwork).=C2=A0 The 8th category, as you say, would be winning with the =
European expansion.=C2=A0 No matter how you slice it, total dominance, whic=
h is why so many people assumed it would be a shoo-in to take one of the MC=
A slots.<div><br></div><div>Anye, I haven't played Watergate.=C2=A0 I r=
arely get much 2-player gaming in during the year since, unlike you, I'=
m the only gamer living in my house.=C2=A0 :-(=C2=A0 It's definitely on=
e I'd like to try, since I'm a big fan of Cramer's and it's=
very well regarded.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW, my three votes in the fi=
nal election went to Barrage, Paladins of the West Kingdom, and Maracaibo.=
=C2=A0 Barrage is so insanely good--it might be my favorite design from the=
past 5 years.=C2=A0 Now I just need to learn to play it better!=C2=A0 Up u=
ntil now, I've found Shem Phillips' games to be pretty good, but no=
thing more, but Paladins struck a chord with me.=C2=A0 Definitely a gamer&#=
39;s game, with everything very tightly interwoven.=C2=A0 And while Maracai=
bo might not be Pfister's best game, it might be the one that's the=
most fun to play.=C2=A0 I definitely think it deserved to be one of our th=
ree winners.=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 9:59 AM Jacob Lee <a href=
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<p>Welcome, Aaron!=C2=A0 Wow, that's a long wait!=C2=A0 Isn't=
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atergate.=C2=A0 It looks really good.=C2=A0 I would probably consider it if=
an unofficial multiplayer variant came out.=C2=A0 Doesn't really work =
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padding: 0 0;
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text-decoration: none;
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clear: both;
display: table;
font-family: Arial;
font-size: 12px;
padding: 10px 0;
width: 400px;
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text-decoration: none;
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border: none;
padding-right: 5px;
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display: block;
margin-bottom: 5px;
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text-decoration: none;
}
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blockquote {
margin: 0 0 0 4px;
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text-decoration: none;
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width: 400px;
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width: 72px;
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height: 62px;
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color: #666666;
font-size: 10px;
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text-align: center;
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margin: 4px;
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color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
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color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
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margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
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font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
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font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
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margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
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margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
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border-right: none !important;=20
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