RE: : application ID and no end ...

John,

but ASR is mainly sent by a server to a specific client using the Destination-Host. The server must know where the Diameter session to be torn down is actually running, in which client.

ASR is a common diameter message applicable to any application and since the Destination-Host is used for routing I don't see how the message can reach the wrong client. So, ASR can use application id '0'IMHO. 

Regards
Marco

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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [AAA-WG]: application ID and no end ...

Thomas,
 
If you are trying to reach a server that implements the new application, then any commands that form part of that application should use the new Application ID.  If the new Application ID is not used, then the messages could not be routed properly.
 
Of course, the drawback for this is, all relays and proxies would need to be updated to enable them to route messages for the new Application ID.  This is why it is not recommended to create new applications unless absolutely necessary.
 
John


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	From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ext Belling, Thomas
	Sent: 29 November, 2005 13:34
	To: [email protected]
	Cc: Grosse-Rhode, Friedrich
	Subject: [AAA-WG]: application ID and no end ...
	
	

	Dear all, 

	allow me to come back to a favorite technical subject on this email exploder before the AAA WG (and email exploder?) a closed down ..

	Immagine an application, e.g. based on DCC, that adds new mandatory AVPs to the CCR and CCA and therefore has an own Diameter application ID assigned.

	The application also uses the RAR, RAA, ASR, and ASA, as defined in RFC 3588, without adding own AVPs to these commands.

	My question: Which application ID shall be used for these commands as Auth-Application-Id ? ID 0 from Diameter base, or the ID of the new application?

	My concern with ID 0 is that the application IDs is also used in Realm-based routing, and you may thus end up with the wrong client is you use diffrent application IDs for different messages within a Diameter session.

	Thanks for your help 

	BR, Th Belling 


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