: Re: [Dime] RE: Diameter base protocol messages used by DCCA

Anders Kristensen <[email protected]> Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:37:42 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.aaa
Message-ID <[email protected]>
OK, so at least there's a way to tell which app the AAR really is for. 
In my view it's a poor solution, though, since the code maintaining peg 
counts could very well belong to a generic Diameter stack which doesn't 
necessarily know about the particulars of DCCA. It's sort of reasonable 
to expect the stack to do something on the basis of Auth-Application-Id 
but not really for DCCA specific AVPs. It makes it unnecessarily 
difficult to layer the server code.

Thanks,
Anders

Tolga Asveren wrote:

> RFC4006 5.2.2 states that Credit-Control AVP  MUST be added to AAR to
> indicate credit-control capabilities.
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Anders Kristensen [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:13 PM
>>To: Glen Zorn (gwz)
>>Cc: [email protected]; [email protected];
>>[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [Dime] RE: Diameter base protocol messages used by DCCA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Glen Zorn (gwz) wrote:
>>
>>>Harri Hakala (TU/LMF) <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>supposedly scribbled:
>>
>>>...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>AA Request/AA Answer are not necessarily equal to AAR/AAA messages in
>>>>NASREQ but they mean in DCCA document a general
>>>>authorization/authentication request/answer in any Diameter
>>>>authorization/authentication application. Bad name example, as it
>>>>seems to collide with the message name in NASREQ.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This would seem to make it quite difficult to monitor/manage
>>
>>DCCA via SNMP, since presumably one would wish to keep track of
>>all the interrogations & the generic auth message is actually the
>>first interrogation.   This implies that all & any such messages
>>should be allocated a counter in the DCCA MIB, but the membership
>>of this set of messages is not static.  Any suggestions?
>>
>>Have clients include an Auth-Application-Id AVP in the AAR with the DCC
>>app id? It's not clear to me from the specs whether this is the
>>intention or not but IMHO there really ought to be a way for the server
>>to tell whether the AAR is for a NAS or DCC session - not just for
>>management reasons.
>>
>>Anders
>>
>>
>>>...
>>>
>>>~gwz
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