Re: ADSLMIB WG status?

Benoit Claise <[email protected]> Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:06:22 +0200
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On 21/06/2013 20:31, Dave Burstein wrote:
> There are major things happening in G.Fast, G.inp, WiFi optimization 
> and similar that are natural to address in a standards group like this.
>
>    There are important differences between the open standards at IETF 
> and the closed standards elsewhere in the process. That is an 
> important reason to keep the open part of the process alive.
Sure, but a open process that doesn't deliver anything is not that useful.

Regards, Benoit
>
>     I will be in Geneva in ten days discussing this with ITU. SG-15 
> will be there as well, but this is not primarily about SG-15 and my 
> meetings will be with the ITU staff. I don't expect to attend SG-15 
> although I'll be happy to say hello to everyone there.
>
> db
>
> Thanks
> db
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Benoit Claise <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     Can you please let me know where we are compared to the milestones?
>
>     Oct 2012 	
>     Initial Vector of Profiles draft to be accepted by the Working Group.
>     Jan 2013 	
>     Submit Vector of Profiles Draft version 01
>     Apr 2013 	
>     Revise the draft and post vector of Profiles draft version 02.
>     Jul 2013 	
>     Post Vector of Profiles Draft version 03.
>     Oct 2013 	
>     Submit Vector of Profiles Draft version 04.
>     Nov 2013 	
>     Working Group Last Call for the Vector of Profiles draft.
>     Dec 2013 	
>     Submit the Vector Of Profile document to the IESG as Proposed
>     Standard.
>     Dec 2013 	
>     Re-charter or close down.
>
>
>
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-adslmib-xdsl-vop-00 expired
>     more than 2 months ago?
>     Is this WG running out of steam, and should be shut down?
>
>     Regards, Benoit
>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 21/06/2013 20:31, Dave Burstein
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          differences between the open standards at IETF and the closed
          standards elsewhere in the process. That is an important
          reason to keep the open part of the process alive. <br>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Sure, but a open process that doesn't deliver anything is not that
    useful.<br>
    <br>
    Regards, Benoit<br>
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          style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I will b=
e in Geneva
          in ten days discussing this with ITU. SG-15 will be there as
          well, but this is not primarily about SG-15 and my meetings
          will be with the ITU staff. I don't expect to attend SG-15
          although I'll be happy to say hello to everyone there.</div>
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          style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks</div>
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        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Benoi=
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          Claise <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
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            <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> Dear all,<br>
              <br>
              Can you please let me know where we are compared to the
              milestones?<br>
              <br>
              <table>
                <tbody>
                  <tr>
                    <td>Oct 2012 </td>
                    <td>
                      <div>Initial Vector of Profiles draft to be
                        accepted by the Working Group.</div>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td> Jan 2013 </td>
                    <td>
                      <div>Submit Vector of Profiles Draft version 01</di=
v>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td> Apr 2013 </td>
                    <td>
                      <div>Revise the draft and post vector of Profiles
                        draft version 02.</div>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td> Jul 2013 </td>
                    <td>
                      <div>Post Vector of Profiles Draft version 03.</div=
>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td> Oct 2013 </td>
                    <td>
                      <div>Submit Vector of Profiles Draft version 04.</d=
iv>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td> Nov 2013 </td>
                    <td>
                      <div>Working Group Last Call for the Vector of
                        Profiles draft.</div>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td> Dec 2013 </td>
                    <td>
                      <div>Submit the Vector Of Profile document to the
                        IESG as Proposed Standard.</div>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td> Dec 2013 </td>
                    <td>
                      <div>Re-charter or close down.</div>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                </tbody>
              </table>
              <br>
              <br>
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adslmib-xdsl-vop-00</a>
              expired more than 2 months ago?<br>
              Is this WG running out of steam, and should be shut down?<b=
r>
              <br>
              Regards, Benoit<br>
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