Re: ADSLMIB WG status?
Benoit Claise <[email protected]> Sun, 23 Jun 2013 08:47:06 -0400
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3354762696395855487== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040708010705080004060204" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040708010705080004060204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Moti, > > Hello, > > Two months ago Scott sent us a proposed new draft. In context of the=20 > milestones, it has a mixture of work planned for 1/13-4/13 drafts.=20 > That is: > > =C2=B7[Planned for 1/13 release] Most of the entities that are part of = the=20 > =E2=80=98legacy=E2=80=99 model are now marked as such (but not 100% of = them); > > =C2=B7[Planned for 4/13] The current draft already supports main compon= ents=20 > of the direct/indirect VoP attachment methods (but not the selection=20 > between =E2=80=98legacy=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98VoP=E2=80=99 modes and al= most none of the VoP profiles=20 > tables) > > I reviewed what Scott sent and I think he performed a great job. I was=20 > just waiting for others to state their opinions. > > In matter of fact I=E2=80=99m also asked from time to time by Broadband= Forum=20 > (BBF) members what happens in IETF but unfortunately nothing of that=20 > is in practice reflected in the ADSLMIB exploder. > Exactly, this is my issue! The last email regarding one of the milestones is from December. As an OPS AD, I'm wondering what I should conclude... Regards, Benoit > > So, I=E2=80=99m in favor of publishing the new draft (which has plenty = of=20 > changes compared to the previous one) and give people another chance=20 > to comment on the more developed draft. > > If I do not hear any argument against that I=E2=80=99ll publish the dra= ft on=20 > _Tuesday_. > > Best Regards, > > Moti > > PS: > > Keep in mind that the VoP model itself is continuously developed.=20 > These days the BBF members are in process of collecting comments=20 > against its 3^rd version (will discuss that in September 13). That=20 > will require changes in the IETF draft as well. > > Moti > > *From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On=20 > Behalf Of *Benoit Claise > *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 4:57 PM > *To:* adslmib mailing list; =D7=9E=D7=A0=D7=97=D7=9D =D7=93=D7=95=D7=93= =D7=92' > *Subject:* [Adslmib] ADSLMIB WG status? > > Dear all, > > Can you please let me know where we are compared to the milestones? > > Oct 2012 > > =09 > > Initial Vector of Profiles draft to be accepted by the Working Group. > > Jan 2013 > > =09 > > Submit Vector of Profiles Draft version 01 > > Apr 2013 > > =09 > > Revise the draft and post vector of Profiles draft version 02. > > Jul 2013 > > =09 > > Post Vector of Profiles Draft version 03. > > Oct 2013 > > =09 > > Submit Vector of Profiles Draft version 04. > > Nov 2013 > > =09 > > Working Group Last Call for the Vector of Profiles draft. > > Dec 2013 > > =09 > > Submit the Vector Of Profile document to the IESG as Proposed Standard. > > Dec 2013 > > =09 > > Re-charter or close down. > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-adslmib-xdsl-vop-00 expired=20 > more than 2 months ago? > Is this WG running out of steam, and should be shut down? > > Regards, Benoit > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains=20 > information which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI=20 > Telecom. If you have received this transmission in error, please=20 > inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then delete the original and=20 > all copies thereof. > --------------040708010705080004060204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Ty= pe"> </head> <body text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Hi Moti,<br> </div> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email protected]= e.com" type=3D"cite"> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DU= TF-8"> <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Wingdings; panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} @font-face {font-family:Wingdings; panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; color:black;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph {mso-style-priority:34; margin-top:0cm; margin-right:0cm; margin-bottom:0cm; margin-left:36.0pt; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; color:black;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} /* List Definitions */ @list l0 {mso-list-id:1787574253; mso-list-type:hybrid; mso-list-template-ids:-2027376120 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67= 698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693;} @list l0:level1 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:=EF=82=B7; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Symbol;} @list l0:level2 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:o; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:"Courier New";} @list l0:level3 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level4 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:=EF=82=B7; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Symbol;} @list l0:level5 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:o; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:"Courier New";} @list l0:level6 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level7 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:=EF=82=B7; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Symbol;} @list l0:level8 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:o; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:"Courier New";} @list l0:level9 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Wingdings;} ol {margin-bottom:0cm;} ul {margin-bottom:0cm;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">Two months ago Scott sent us a proposed new draft. In context of the milestones, it has a mixture of work planned for 1/13-4/13 drafts. That is:<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if != supportLists]--><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><= span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=C2=B7<span style=3D"font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir=3D"LTR"></span= ><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">[Planned for 1/13 release] Most of the entities that are part of the =E2=80=98legacy=E2=80=99 model are now marked as such (but no= t 100% of them); <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if != supportLists]--><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><= span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=C2=B7<span style=3D"font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir=3D"LTR"></span= ><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">[Planned for 4/13] The current draft already supports main components of the direct/indirect VoP attachment methods (but not the selection between =E2=80=98legacy=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98VoP=E2= =80=99 modes and almost none of the VoP profiles tables)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">I reviewed what Scott sent and I think he performed a great job. I was just waiting for others to state their opinions.<o= :p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">In matter of fact I=E2=80=99m also asked from time to time by Br= oadband Forum (BBF) members what happens in IETF but unfortunately nothing of that is in practice reflected in the ADSLMIB exploder.</span></p> </div> </blockquote> Exactly, this is my issue!<br> The last email regarding one of the milestones is from December.<br> As an OPS AD, I'm wondering what I should conclude...<br> <br> Regards, Benoit<br> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email protected]= e.com" type=3D"cite"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">So, I=E2=80=99m in favor of publishing the new draft (which has p= lenty of changes compared to the previous one) and give people another chance to comment on the more developed draft.<o:p></= o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">If I do not hear any argument against that I=E2=80=99ll publish = the draft on <u>Tuesday</u>.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">Moti<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">PS:<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">Keep in mind that the VoP model itself is continuously developed. These days the BBF members are in process of collecting comments against its 3<sup>rd</sup> version (will discuss that in September 13). That will require changes in the IETF draft as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri= f";color:#1F497D">Moti<o:p></o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif= ";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif= ";color:windowtext"> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:adsl= [email protected]">[email protected]</a> [<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:adslmi= [email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Benoit Claise<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 21, 2013 4:57 PM<br> <b>To:</b> adslmib mailing list; <span dir=3D"RTL" lang=3D"HE">=D7=9E=D7=A0=D7=97=D7=9D =D7=93=D7=95=D7=93= =D7=92</span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>'<br> <b>Subject:</b> [Adslmib] ADSLMIB WG status?<o:p></o:p></= span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear all,<b= r> <br> Can you please let me know where we are compared to the milestones?<o:p></o:p></p> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Oct 2012 <o:p></o:p></p> </td> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Initial Vector of Profiles draft to be accepted by the Working Group.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jan 2013 <o:p></o:p></p> </td> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Submit Vector of Profiles Draft version 01<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Apr 2013 <o:p></o:p></p> </td> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Revise the draft and post vector of Profiles draft version 02.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jul 2013 <o:p></o:p></p> </td> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Post Vector of Profiles Draft version 03.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Oct 2013 <o:p></o:p></p> </td> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Submit Vector of Profiles Draft version 04.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nov 2013 <o:p></o:p></p> </td> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Working Group Last Call for the Vector of Profiles draft.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dec 2013 <o:p></o:p></p> </td> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Submit the Vector Of Profile document to the IESG as Proposed Standard.<o:p></o:p>= </p> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dec 2013 <o:p></o:p></p> </td> <td style=3D"padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Re-charter or close down.<o:p></= o:p></p> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br> <br> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-adslmib-xdsl-v= op-00">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-adslmib-xdsl-vop-00</a> expired more than 2 months ago?<br> Is this WG running out of steam, and should be shut down?<br> <br> Regards, Benoit<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p> This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains information which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. 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