Re: (Fwd): draft-danisch-dns-rr-smtp-03.txt

Yakov Shafranovich <[email protected]> Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:20:30 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.asrg.rmx
Organization SolidMatrix Technologies, Inc.
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Raymond S Brand wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> ...
> 
>>----- Forwarded message from Steve Linford <[email protected]> -----
>>
>>
>>>From: Steve Linford <[email protected]>
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:52:17 +0000
>>>Subject: draft-danisch-dns-rr-smtp-03.txt
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Little error/ommission which is important to correct:
>>>
>>>in draft-danisch-dns-rr-smtp-03.txt
>>>
>>>      2.1.2.  Spam
>>>
>>>              ...
>>>
>>>              Unfortunately, there is no accurate definition of spam
>>>              availabe
>>>              yet
>>>
>>>There certainly is an accurate definition of spam, and which is
>>>supported by all anti-spam organizations, the definition of spam is
>>>here: http://www.spamhaus.org/definition.html
> 
> 
> Although I have no argument with that as _A_ definition of SPAM, the word
> ``all'' in that sentence is suspect and there are other definitions of
> SPAM that disagree with that definition.
> 

For example, CAUCE's definition is UCE not UBE. Trying to define spam, 
takes us down a very slippery slope where major anti-spam organizations 
can be more rabid against each other, than spammers and anti-spammers. 
That is why the ASRG charter, and most of the working documents 
(technical considerations, requirements, etc.) stay away from defining it.

But, I would like to point out, that all of the LMAP proposals do not 
need a defition of spam, since all they do is connect domain names and 
MTAs. Therefore, LMAP proposals are better off in this aspect since it 
is upto to the receiver to define spam in his own way, LMAP just 
provides the tools for enforcement.

Yakov


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Yakov Shafranovich / asrg <at> shaftek.org
SolidMatrix Technologies, Inc. / research <at> solidmatrix.com
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