The gap
Hadmut Danisch <[email protected]> Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:11:12 +0200
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Gentlemen, I'd like to address a problem which all of our proposals have in common (I'm currently working on an article for a german magazine about information and communication law, that's why I'm currently thinking about this problem): Imagine we have such a mechanism to verify the sender address or its domain part based on information given in this domain's zone table, and the whole world has adopted the mechanism. Will this stop spam? No. It will change the flavour of spam. Spam will not come from @hotmail.com, @yahoo.com, @microsoft.com, but from domains like @example123.xy , and the authorization records will cover the sender, thus making the mechanism accept the mail. How do we have to cope with this? Our mechanism can be only the first link in a chain. We do not claim that our mechanisms block spam, we claim that our mechanims provide a way to verify that the sender was authorized by the domain owner to do so. Unfortunately, there are plenty of bulk domains just existing for commercial abuse. Many countries, including the USA, allow to provide domains without any or without an obvious link to the person responsible for that domain. If the spammer is identical with that particular domain owner - boom. So once our mechanism as reliably verified, that the domain authority - whatever this might be - had authorized the sender, the next link in the chain must follow. Since this is still a weak point of all our proposals, we should at least think about this. >From my experience, the best way to perform the next step would be to perform a whois query on that domain and to decide whether we do accept mails from it or not. Problems: - whois is slow - whois is not highly available. If every MTA started to query whois servers, they'd go down. - many domains don't have proper whois entries - there is no standard format for whois entries, trying to parse whois-entries is a mess. - whois often does not provide the information we'd like to see Our mechanism as the first link of the chain would solve many, but not all problems needed to get rid off to cope with spam. A "solution" would be to formulate requirements for future whois-services and send them to ICANN (and pray). I'd like to see the following informations: - XML for easy parsing - which legislation does this domain (or its responsible authority belong to) - private person, company, anonymous - long-time or short-time domain - Who sold the domain - abuse contact address - ... based on these informations the MTA would have to decide whether to accept messages from this domain or not. There can be a long-time cache. I guess caching intervals of 1-3 months would not really be a problem. Opinions? regards Hadmut