Re: Other SMTP verification methods
John Levine <[email protected]> 5 Mar 2004 18:29:19 -0000
| Newsgroups | gmane.ietf.asrg.smtpverify |
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| Organization | I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
Yakov Shafranovich <[email protected]> wrote: > All of these callback schemes have possible DDOS and privacy problems, > not to say they should not be done but we must tread carefully. Callbacks and message signatures do the same thing, except that callbacks do it much, much, worse. In both cases the recipient asks the putative sender whether they actually sent the message. Signatures are forward security, the sender puts the signature on the message, and it's there for the recipient to check. Callbacks are backward security, the recipient only retrieves the verification data after it's received the messages. Even if we posit a callback scheme using some channel other than SMTP to the sender, so it doesn't annoy and mailbomb senders, it still requires substantial extra traffic for each message. To avoid spoofing attacks (bad guy replaces contents of legit message with spam and forwards it along) the senders have to remember something about all of the messages they sent for as long as verification requests are likely to come in. This is the real reason I have no interest in looking at callbacks, and I'd much rather put the effort into signatures. Regards, John Levine, [email protected], Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY http://www.taugh.com