Re: antiphishing idea

Paul Smith <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.asrg
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 18/11/2011 00:18, Christian Grunfeld wrote:
>> What it doesn't do is solve "froggery" (myriads of look-alike domains, which
>> your proposal does not solve) nor does it solve the fact that most of the
>> time the user doesn't even notice what's in the From: line (nor does your
>> proposal).  Remember that many mail readers (outlook included) DO NOT SHOW
>> YOU THE EMAIL ADDRESS in the From: line by default.
> my proposal does not need the user see the address...it checks
> silently on behalf the user.
>

Unfortunately, all it will check is that the from address is OK-ish 
according to the sender's domain.

It doesn't check that that message that says 'your paypal account has 
been compromised, please enter your login details on 
http://badpeople.com/giveusyourmoney.php' is actually from Paypal. The 
'From' address, and the return path could be '[email protected]', 
and some people would still click on that link and enter their login 
details.

The biggest reason phishing works is that some (many?) people become 
very stupid as soon as you put a computer in front of them. Good luck 
with finding a solution for that... :) Ask them in the street for their 
password, and they'll tell you where to go, but send them an email with 
a 'keyword' in (eg 'Paypal', or their bank's name), and they'll tell you 
everything you want to know.


Actually, as an anti-forgery technique, which may help spam filters when 
determining reputation, I think your idea would help (I know others 
would disagree), but as a specifically anti-phishing technique, I think 
human stupidity will beat it.
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