Re: SPF's helo identity as a reporting target

On Mon 14/May/2012 16:19:57 +0200 Chris Lewis wrote:
> On 12-05-14 05:26 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>
>> There must be loads of national laws that the owner of that zone
>> openly breaks.  Isn't that too much risky from a legal POV,
>> considering its effectiveness is probably less than other kinds
>> of DDoS?
> 
> Who said anything about a deliberate DDOS?  Think of it as spam with
> electronic countermeasures designed to confuse, confound and distract
> the recipients and third parties.

Whatever the intent, I should get your permission before asserting
that your server serves me.  Shouldn't I?  Then, yes, I suppose some
judges still have difficulties understanding Internet protocols.

> Just like they already do.
> 
> "national laws ... openly breaks".  You can say that with a straight
> face considering that 80-90% of all spam already does?

I don't have specific experience, but it seems to me that when
spammers leave enough evidence behind them they can be taken to court.

>>    220 wmail.tana.it ESMTP
> 
> Big enough, the recipient site still loses before the 220.

You're right.  Rejecting is cheap, but still bears a cost.