Re: e-postage stamps, was Welcome to the new(ish) ASRG list
"Bill Cole" <[email protected]> Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:53:46 -0400
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On 17 Mar 2013, at 1:51, Franck Martin wrote: > So once again who are these Many ISPs that outright block on no rDNS? My employer isn't exactly an ISP, but we provide outsourced email for SMB's and reject mail from IP's with no rDNS. No exceptions. Appeals from senders or customers are very rare, and none has required careful thought in my 4+ years there. When last I looked at the numbers, there was no doubt that the garbage being rejected pre-DATA was enough to justify the policy and the possible false positives were statistically equivalent to zero. Of course there are degrees of "no rDNS" that get treated differently, but that should be obvious. Possibly transient DNS failures are distinguishable from NXDOMAIN replies, and perfectly match the design justification for SMTP 4xx replies. Beyond ISPs and ISP-like entities, the long tail of corporate mail servers is rich with systems rejecting mail offered by IP's that yield NXDOMAIN to a PTR query, and they often have no useful route of appeal for deliverability problems. Config rejecting mail from nameless IP's (i.e. Postfix's reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname, Sendmail's require_rdns, etc.) has become part of the canon of anti-spam advice for good reasons (it blocks a respectable pile of spam, it's cheap, and it has very low FPs) and many mail systems run on autopilot after the deployment of such advice until they noticeably break. A sender using nameless IP's may well get not be blocked or dropped by half of the big freemailers and 3/4 of the largest consumer access providers, but below that scale run into a brick wall.