Re: limitations of reputation, was Spam sent from compromised
Martijn Grooten <[email protected]> Sat, 23 Mar 2013 20:11:48 +0000
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> How good is good enough? > > Is there any way to suggest a threshold a spam-fighting technique > should reach before we as a group (?) would issue a seal of approval? For me to consider a new anti-spam technique useful, it has to either 1) improve the current situation or 2) work against changes in spam and/or the email infrastructure. Ways to deal with spam sent over IPv6 fall into the latter category. Regarding the former, I think that spam filters are actually doing really well. The overwhelming majority of spam is blocked before it reaches the user; false positive rates are relatively low. (Disclaimer: in my job I measure such things.) I'm not saying things can't be improved, but improvements will always be small. Very few spam-filters are based on one Big Idea to stop spam. Many might be pretty useless against all sorts of spam that could have been sent, but they're pretty good against the spam that is sent, and are updated[1] if and when spam changes. That, I think, is what matters. [1] This tends to happen automatically and in real-time. The 'bulk' part of spam really works against spammers here. At the same time, as discussed recently, global spam levels seem have come down. So I think email is not about to collapse under the amount of spam that is being sent. Because of this, I tend to be rather sceptical about new ideas to fight spam that don't take into account how well we're actually doing already. I'm much more inclined to get excited about ideas on how to deal with spam that is harder to filter including, but not limited to: - spam sent from compromised accounts (even worse: to people in the address book); - spam that is more targeted and (therefore) sent in lower volumes; - 'bacn' [2]. [2] I hadn't seen this term used in years, but the BBC wrote about it the other day: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21830739 It's definitely a problem. Martijn. PS I make various implicit or explicit claims in this email. They may be wrong. This is a research group: if you think I'm wrong, prove that that is the case, or challenge me to prove that I'm right. ________________________________ Virus Bulletin Ltd, The Pentagon, Abingdon, OX14 3YP, England. Company Reg No: 2388295. VAT Reg No: GB 532 5598 33. - This is the asrg mailing list. To change your subscription settings, see http://lists.services.net/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr/domain=lists.gurus.org