Re: Was Speaking of filtering, - CAUSE initiatives

Nice :-). Is CAUSE having any actions in this respect towards influential
press representatives; getting them interested to look into why nothing done
on the ISP side, why the bad guys is allowed to continue? You should have real
cases, people affected, to give them.

Again, am aware that it's not catching all, but though systems like Brighmail,
grey-filtering, Spamassassin, Spamhouse etc, we're more or less at the "same"
situation 10 years ago. Publicity could hurt some, leverage situation a bit,
since neither these ISP's nor the spammers want it.

Also, why not lobby for more national CERT-groups to do as CERT.Se does,
getting the good ISP's/trunk vendors feel some pressure to help? As CERT.Se
shows, it's not completely invisible.


On Mar 27, 2013, at 14:55 "Neil Schwartzman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Kurt M <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Correct, what you included is the base material, but what do they tell a
>> journalist, making them inclined to do a piece on it? The story, making the
>> news?
>>
>> Nader and similar researchers in other areas "marketed" such findings, they
>> never gave them strait out to the press; because those figures doesn't say a
>> thing to the them, catching their attention, digging deeper.
>
> Oh sorry, I forgot to include my .sig.
>
>
>
> Neil Schwartzman
> Executive Director
> CAUCE - the Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email
> Mob: (415) 361-0069
> Skype: (303) 800-6345
> Web: http://cauce.org
> Twitter: @cauce
>
>
>> Nader had
>> basically no more than such data and some real life cases, but change the
>> global automotive industry at its core, by taking the industry to the
>> cleaners.
>>
>
> CAUCE helped develop and pass CASL, the world's toughest anti-spam law, in
> Canada. CASL will have deep implications for anyone sending commercial
> electronic messages into or out of Canada, with fines up to $10,000,000 per
> email.
>
> Beyond that, we work with the FTC, FCC, FBI, OFT, OECD, OPTA, ACMA, ICPEN,
> LAP, CRTC, ITU, MAAWG, APWG, and politicians and bureaucrats world-wide to
> develop, implement and deploy anti-abuse policy. Our board members have been
> heavily involved in virtually all of the highly publicized take-downs of
> botnets over the past decade.
>
> While John Levine is no Nader, he is CAUCE president, and has had a direct
> hand in sending spammers to prison.
>
> We can now stop re-inventing this particular wheel.
>
>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 13:37 "Neil Schwartzman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 1:30 AM, Kurt M <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Compile a yearly, for news people readable, "State of the Spam" and get a
>>>> Ralph Naderish spokesman. If done right, it can prove to be a real
>>>> incentive
>>>> for ISP's to ID customers having spambots etc.
>>>>
>>>> Can't be done?
>>>
>>> What a great idea! Oh, wait.
>>>
>>> http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/networks/
>>>
>>> The World's Worst Spam Support ISPs
>>> As of 27 March 2013 the ISPs with the worst Abuse Departments and
>>> consequently
>>> the worst reputations for knowingly hosting illegal spam operations are:
>>>
>>> 1
>>> cb3rob.net	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 127
>>>
>>> 2
>>> hinet.net	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 120
>>>
>>> 3
>>> idear4business.net	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 77
>>>
>>> 4
>>> ovh.net	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 77
>>>
>>> 5
>>> iliad.fr	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 70
>>>
>>> 6
>>> airtel.in	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 53
>>>
>>> 7
>>> telefonica.com.br	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 52
>>>
>>> 8
>>> chinanet-gd	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 52
>>>
>>> 9
>>> cat.net.th	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 50
>>>
>>> 10
>>> uplus.co.kr	Number of Current Known Spam Issues: 50
>>>
>>>
>>> http://hostexploit.com/downloads/viewdownload/7/46.html
>>> Abstract
>>>
>>> As malware continues to evolve, and cybercriminals continue to learn, one
>>> particular fundamental remains constant – almost all malicious threats are
>>> physically hosted somewhere. For this reason, it remains as important as
>>> ever
>>> to examine hosting practices and standards and consider how they can be
>>> improved.
>>>
>>> One such way is to measure levels of cybercriminal activity on servers
>>> around
>>> the world, and attempt to quantify the results. Such has been the aim of
>>> HostExploit’s World Hosts Report (formerly Top 50 Bad Hosts) since
>>> publication
>>> began in 2009. The quarterly reports examine all 43,000+ publicly-routed
>>> Autonomous Systems in the world, gathering data on infected websites,
>>> botnets,
>>> spam and other activity, before combining the research with trusted
>>> community
>>> sources and analyzing the results.
>>>
>>> The report makes suitable reading for service providers, security
>>> professionals, webmasters and policymakers alike. For the most part, the
>>> reader is left to draw their own conclusions, as numbers speak for
>>> themselves.
>>> However, it should be stressed that most malicious content is not hosted
>>> knowingly – often it is as a result of inaction, and sometimes hosts can be
>>> the victims.
>>>
>>> This quarter we see the return of Dutch hosting provider Ecatel to the #1
>>> rank, having held the position at various times in the past. Ecatel does
>>> not
>>> top the rankings for any particular category of activity, but rather for a
>>> consistently poor showing across the board.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.spamrankings.net
>>> Which organizations send the most spam?
>>>
>>> February 2013 Monthly  World ∀ All  from CBL Volume
>>> (Previous Month)
>>>
>>>
>>> 1	(1) 	AS 16276 OVH	 FR
>>> 2	(23) 	AS 17447 NET4INDIA	 IN
>>> 3	(27) 	AS 21844 THEPLANET-AS	 US
>>> 4	(4) 	AS 7643 VNPT-AS-VN	 VN
>>> 5	(215)	AS 6724 STRATO	 DE
>>> 6	(17) 	AS 15201 UOL	 BR
>>> More...
>>> AS 16276 OVH is still #1 but is finally getting a grip on its spam problem.
>>>
>>> OVH was down from 19 million spam messages a day (38 million the previous
>>> month) to 2 at the end of February. AS 8685 DORUKNET also got a grip on its
>>> darkmailer2 problem. No worries for darkmailer2, though: all the other top
>>> 10
>>> are infested by it, and all but AS 7643 VNPT-AS-VN got worse.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Both OVH and VNPT kept their former ranks yet spammed less. Only DORUKNET
>>> spammed less and improved its rank. The other seven all spammed more.
>>> Rank (Previous)	Organization	Country	Volume	Vol%
>>> 1	(1) 	OVH Systems
>>> www.ovh.com/fr/index.xml
>>> AS 16276 OVH	 FR	284,910,621
>>> (742,589,700)	17%
>>> 2	(23) 	Net4India Ltd.
>>> www.net4.in/
>>> AS 17447 NET4INDIA	 IN	200,028,259
>>> (90,959,551)	12%
>>> 3	(27) 	ThePlanet.com Internet Services Inc.
>>> www.theplanet.com/
>>> AS 21844 THEPLANET-AS	 US	194,914,540
>>> (64,029,949)	11.7%
>>> 4	(4) 	Vietnam Posts and Telecommunications (VNPT)
>>> www.vnpt.com.vn/
>>> AS 7643 VNPT-AS-VN	 VN	180,285,185
>>> (277,278,999)	10.8%
>>> 5	(215) 	Strato AG
>>> www.strato.de/
>>> AS 6724 STRATO	 DE	144,373,753
>>> (3,464,796)	8.63%
>>> 6	(17) 	Universo Online Ltda.
>>> www.uol.com.br/
>>> AS 15201 UOL	 BR	138,311,682
>>> (112,300,746)	8.27%
>>> 7	(-) 	CTI Systems
>>> www.ctisystems.com/
>>> AS 41288 CTISYSTEMS-AS OOO	 UA	137,266,800
>>> (-)	8.21%
>>> 8	(88) 	Korea Telecom
>>> www.kt.com/eng
>>> AS 4766 KIXS-AS-KR	 KR	134,142,424
>>> (19,428,991)	8.02%
>>> 9	(3) 	DorukNet IstanbulTurkey
>>> www.doruk.net.tr/
>>> AS 8685 DORUKNET	 TR	131,685,436
>>> (324,544,788)	7.87%
>>> 10	(60) 	Hanaro Telecom Inc.
>>> www.skbroadband.com/eng/
>>> AS 9318 HANARO-AS	 KR	126,776,114
>>> (34,711,361)	7.58%
>>> 	Total		1,672,694,814	100%
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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