Re: Water tight opt-in (yet another FUSSP)

Alessandro Vesely <[email protected]> wrote:

> It seems to me it would only take some commitment and cooperation to
> have it started.  I'm unable to find the proper anchor for this FUSSP
> in Vernon's page[1], not even the first (I didn't "discover", just
> stumbled upon it.)  Can you help?

Probably my idea from over a decade ago (I have no idea how long):
confirmation requests would be sent to the user's ISP, who would
generate the confirmation web link and send it to the user.  The
confirmation would go through the ISP, so the ISP would *know* that this
user subscribed to this list.

The purpose wasn't "proof", but rather to allow users to subscribe to
lists that other users (at the same ISP) called spam, without the ISP
filtering mail to the users who legitimately subscribed.  Likewise,
"this is spam" reports from users known to have subscribed would be met
with "you subscribed to <list> on <date>; do you want to unsubscribe?"
rather than outward reports of spam.

Providing the recipient ISP is trustworthy, this would also provide
proof of opt-in for a third party.

It isn't close to FUSSP, since it addresses only list mail.  While I'm
subscribed to hundreds of lists using tagged addresses, much of my spam
still comes to my untagged people-and-discussion-lists address.

Seth
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