Re: Let's try to be productive...

Well, yes, if we use sufficiently general language then sure, it can
be covered in a few words like "unsolicited bulk email".

I think there's value in breaking it out by technique and motive, and
by frequency/volume, and some other categories.

For example, surely there's a big difference between something like
Green Card Spam where the sender is identifiable and probably has a
reasonably legitimate business motivation, it's basically just very
cheap and rude advertising, versus phishing, 419 spam, virus-embedded
bulk mail, etc.

That's just one dimension (criminal product, or not.) There are
others.

On January 10, 2014 at 20:10 [email protected] (John Levine) wrote:
 > >I like your effort but if we can't agree on what is spam, and I think
 > >you'd be surprised, it's difficult to recommend where to put effort.
 > 
 > The usual definitions are unsolicited bulk mail or perhaps unsolicited
 > bulk commercial mail.
 > 
 > In practice, most of the definitions describe almost the same mail.
 > 
 > CAN SPAM, the worst, weakest spam law in the world, defines it as
 > commercial mail where the recipient hasn't told them to stop, along
 > with commercial mail that has fraudulent characteristics.  As weak as
 > it is, most of the spam you get violates CAN SPAM and the reasons
 > there's no action against the spammers has nothing to do with the
 > definition of spam.
 > 
 > The new Canadian law and all of the European laws define it as
 > unsolicited commercial mail, with various sized loopholes for B2B mail
 > or mail to people you already know somehow.
 > 
 > R's,
 > John

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