Re: Water tight opt-in (yet another FUSSP)

On 01/12/2014 11:44 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote:

> On 1/12/2014 8:37 AM, Chris Lewis wrote:

>> What spambots are you talking about?

> Well, Kelihos & Cutwail, of course. :-)

> So, taken in that context, I see Neil's point. I am not familiar with
> the trending data over time regarding delivery... messaging abuse is not
> really my area of expertise here, just commenting on what I do see, and
> that is still a lot of daily malicious spam delivery via Cutwail and
> Kelihos.

Deliveries or attempts to deliver?

I appreciate that if you're looking on the wire, at times it can look
pretty bad.  But most of Cutwail and Kelihos are pretty tightly
dialed-in and/or relatively static, and the amount getting through even
modestly competent spam filters is extremely low.

The volumes on the wire are still stupidly ridiculous, but little of it
is getting anywhere.

The battle lines have shifted dramatically since, say, 2-3 years ago.

If you're still getting a lot of bot spam delivery in your inbox, you
need a better spam filter.  It just so happens I have one in my back
pocket ;-)
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