Re: Let's try to be productive...
Barry Shein <[email protected]> Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:28:52 -0500
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On January 14, 2014 at 10:30 [email protected] (Ian Eiloart) wrote: > BULK has nothing to do with the annoyance to me as a recipient: > nobody has a right to spam me just because they=92re not spamming > other people. Also, when investigating spam, I should not require > access to third party networks in order to demonstrate that an > email was spam. That's true, at least in theory. But if it's not bulk it's probably diffiicult to prosecute though it might suggest other remedies. In the US CAN-SPAM specifically raises the standards in the case of individuals seeking remedy. > Clearly some unsolicited email has to be permitted, as do > unsolicited phone calls. It=92s a feature of email that the > recipient doesn=92t have to be expecting the incoming > email. That=92s why it=92s just "marketing" that=92s > forbidden. Email to "business addresses" is excluded from the > "prior permission" part of the UK legislation, and we have a > problem where I work: senders tend to assume that all sussex.ac.uk > addresses are business addresses. I=92d argue that you have to > look at the left hand side: "i.eiloart@=85" is not a business > address, but "postmaster@=85" is. Is political campaigning "marketing" in this sense? I'm surprised we're not pounded more with political campaign materials particularly from the major parties (i.e., they have enough money to be dangerous in this regard.) Maybe it's not effective, maybe they haven't figured it out yet. They certainly don't mind ringing phones with robocalls etc. particularly as an election nears. In the US they've excluded most political campaigning from legislation such as CAN-SPAM, right? =46rom the CAN-SPAM wikipedia page, content is exempt if it consists of: o religious messages o political messages o content that broadly complies with the marketing mechanisms specified in the law; or o national security messages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canspam --=20 -Barry Shein The World | [email protected] | http://www.TheWorld.c= om Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Cana= da Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo* - This is the asrg mailing list. To change your subscription settings, see http://lists.services.net/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr/domain=3Dlists.gurus.org