Re: Water tight opt-in (yet another FUSSP)

"Neil Schwartzman" <[email protected]> 25 Jan 2014 10:23:12 -0500
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thanks Dave. Apologies such as yours are all too rare these days.


Neil Schwartzman
Executive Director
Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email
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Twitter : @cauce




On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Dave Warren <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2014-01-11 06:23, Neil Schwartzman wrote:
>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Dave Warren <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> it is laughed off as a "Well I don't see a problem when I don't look =
very hard" by one of the professionals who makes money from the same =
industry that makes their money sending unwanted spamvertising in the =
first place.
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>> Since I work for a major receiver would my laughing this off be more =
credible (not that I accept for a moment that Laura=92s comments lack =
credibility, or yours being mean-spirited and insulting)?
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> Fair enough: I wasn't intending to write a mean or insulting message, =
but I did. And worse, it was directed at someone who I respect, but in =
this instance disagreed with.
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> I am genuinely sorry and I do apologize; I didn't mean to go on the =
attack against the person, just the position. I was rude and offensive, =
and I am sorry.
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> Dave Warren
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> http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren


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<br><div style=3D""><div>On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Dave Warren &lt;<a =
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      On Jan 6, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Dave Warren &lt;<a =
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href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;
      wrote:
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        <blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;
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            text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
            word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float:
            none; display: inline !important;">it is laughed off as a
            "Well I don't see a problem when I don't look very hard" by
            one of the professionals who makes money from the same
            industry that makes their money sending unwanted
            spamvertising in the first place.</span></blockquote>
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      <br>
      <div>Since I work for a major receiver would my laughing this off
        be more credible (not that I accept for a moment that Laura=92s
        comments lack credibility, or yours being mean-spirited and
        insulting)?</div>
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    <br>
    <br>
    Fair enough: I wasn't intending to write a mean or insulting
    message, but I did. And worse, it was directed at someone who I
    respect, but in this instance disagreed with.<br>
    <br>
    I am genuinely sorry and I do apologize; I didn't mean to go on the
    attack against the person, just the position. I was rude and
    offensive, and I am sorry.<br>
    <br>
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