[ippm] Re: [savnet] Re: Call for adoption: draft-che n-bmwg-savnet-sav-benchmarking-08 (Ends 2026-02-04)

Hi Xueyan,







Thank you for your support.










I have listed your previous comments along with our additional responses below. Thank you for the reminder. Regarding the first comment, we have addressed it. For the second comment, we have discussed how to update the examples and will include the revisions in the next version.










1) From Xueyan: would suggest to use "false positive ratio" and "false negative ratio". The "false positive ratio" can be used to indicate the ratio of legitimate packets incorrectly dropped, and "false negative ratio" can be used to indicate the proportion of illegal packets incorectly allowed. At the best case, the ratio parameter is expected to be as low as 0%, what do you think?










[Libin:] Yes, we agree and did the revision. In the current version, we use "false positive rate" and "false negative rate" as the SAV accuracy metrics. 










We use the term "false positive/negative rate" rather than "false positive/negative ratio" because "rate" has a well-defined statistical meaning, referring to the proportion of false positives/nagatives conditioned on all actual negative/positive samples. In benchmarking and measurement documents, including those in networking and machine learning, "rate" is usually used. We adopt "rate" to ensure clarity and alignment with established terminology. If experts in BMWG and IPPM have other different suggestions, we can discuss more.










2) From Xueyan: BTW, I found the IP address used in the examples is V4 type, IPv6 example should be used. You can refer to https://authors.ietf.org/example-addresses. 










[Libin:] Thanks for reminding this point. We discussed this and plan to use IPv6 to replace IPv4 in the examples. Will add them in the next version.
















Best,




Libin




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Hello all,

I support WG adoption of this draft.

My comments seems not be addressed at the current version?

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bmwg/y2Lc3yOfn6QUHsSzxbgIMvmDc0E/







Best regards,

Xueyan




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Date: 2026年01月16日 20:56
Subject: [savnet] Re: Call for adoption: draft-chen-bmwg-savnet-sav-benchmarking-08 (Ends 2026-02-04)
Dear All,

As one of the authors, I support the adoption of this draft.


Best,
Libin

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> 主题: [savnet] Re: Call for adoption: draft-chen-bmwg-savnet-sav-benchmarking-08  (Ends 2026-02-04)
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> Dear BMWG, SAVNET, IPPM,
> Please note that we just started a three-week Working Group Adoption Call for draft-chen-bmwg-savnet-sav-benchmarking on Benchmarking Methodology for Intra-domain and Inter-domain Source Address Validation (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-bmwg-savnet-sav-benchmarking/)
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> Considering that this document is closely linked to SAVNET WG, we would really appreciate comments from the SAVNET experts.
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> We would also encourage IPPM WG to review the draft, in order to continue the cooperation between BMWG and IPPM.
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> Best Regards,
> 
> Giuseppe and Sarah
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> Abstract:
>    This document defines methodologies for benchmarking the performance
>    of intra-domain and inter-domain source address validation (SAV)
>    mechanisms.  SAV mechanisms are utilized to generate SAV rules to
>    prevent source address spoofing, and have been implemented with many
>    various designs in order to perform SAV in the corresponding
>    scenarios.  This document takes the approach of considering a SAV
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