[ippm] Re: Joint BMWG/IPPM chartering
<Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Sat, 23 May 2026 05:36:02 +0000
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--===============8908839205829704260== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="----=_Part_582239_1677058945.1779514567530" Content-Language: en-US ------=_Part_582239_1677058945.1779514567530 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_ZR1P278MB11705E08587F4695ADF2F85E890C2ZR1P278MB1170CHEP_" Content-Language: en-US --_000_ZR1P278MB11705E08587F4695ADF2F85E890C2ZR1P278MB1170CHEP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Tim, We are about to prepare another charter proposal update. I would appreciate= if you could review my proposal. And of course, anybody else on the mailing list who likes to comment or has= different suggestions, please join the conversation. Best wishes Thomas From: Graf Thomas, SCS-INI-NET-VNC-E2E Sent: Friday, May 1, 2026 9:32 AM To: 'Tim Chown' <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: Joint BMWG/IPPM chartering Dear Tim, Thanks a lot! These are very good points. As an individual, see inline my f= eedback and proposals how to address this in the proposed charter. Best wishes Thomas From: Tim Chown <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2026 11:20 AM To: Graf Thomas, SCS-INI-NET-VNC-E2E <Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]<mailto:Thoma= s.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<m= ailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]= <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Joint BMWG/IPPM chartering Be aware: This is an external email. Hi, I think this is a good, firm strawman and something that should definitely = be taken forward. Thank you for the work in getting this far. A few comments... I don't understand the "the WG is responsible for documenting common securi= ty building blocks and guidance" line. What are these building blocks? To = someone just reading this charter, it's not clear. Security of measurement= protocols? Measurement of security appliances? Something else? TG> Correct. This needs to be set into context. How about Before: The xxxx WG fosters commonality and comparability of metrics and measuremen= ts across IETF protocols at different layers. Also, the WG is responsible f= or documenting common security building blocks and guidance. After: The xxxx WG fosters commonality and comparability of metrics and measuremen= ts across IETF protocols at different layers. Also, the WG is responsible f= or documenting common security building blocks and guidance for methodologi= es and measurement protocols, including guidance on how to handle sensitive= and vulnerable metrics. I assume the nature of the work in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-i= etf-ippm-qoo/ remains covered by the new charter. The text doesn't explicit= ly mention quality assessment frameworks and scoring. Second, it would be a nice nod to Dave T=E4ht to explicitly mention bufferb= loat detection in the charter, with related work like in particular https:/= /datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness/. TG> Both are good points which should be clearly mentioned. How about Before: The WG will also produce terminology documents and recommendations concerni= ng the key performance characteristics of internetworking technologies, or = benchmarks for network devices, systems, and services. After: The WG will also produce terminology documents and recommendations concerni= ng the key performance characteristics of internetworking technologies, or = benchmarks for network devices, systems, and services. This includes also q= uality assessment frameworks, scoring, and bufferbloat detection. The related WGs (well, RGs) should probably include maprg, both for the wor= k it does that may lead to new proposals for protocol work, and its testing= of drafts/protocols under development in the new combined WG. TG> I think the relationship with MAPRG falls under collaboration and there= fore could be mentioned like this: Before: The WG closely collaborates with the Performance Metrics Directorate per th= e guidance in BCP 170. After: The WG closely collaborates with the Performance Metrics Directorate per th= e guidance in BCP 170 and also with MAPRG. And considering something I'm involved with at the moment, is measurement o= f jumbo frame MTU operation in scope for this WG, e.g., testing for 9000 MT= U end-to-end? It's not clear to me from reading the text. Do we need to = add any paragraph about what's NOT in scope, or do we leave it up to the WG= to decide what it can adopt? TG> From my point of few, this is already to detailed for a charter item. P= erhaps others have a different opinion. I've not added these as issues. TG> Let me know your thoughts and suggestions on the proposals. I can add t= hem then to the issues: https://github.com/ietf-ippm/wg-charter/issues Tim On 26/04/2026, 09:02, "Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]<mailto:Thomas.Graf@swisscom= .com>" <Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]<mailto:Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>> wrote: Dear BMWG and IPPM, On behalf of the chairs. At IETF 125 we had a public joint chartering sessi= on onsite. In that session and during the discussion afterwards, we consoli= dated and simplified the existing charters https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/bmwg/about/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ippm/about/ for a new joint charter proposal https://github.com/ietf-ippm/wg-charter/blob/main/ippm-bmwg-joint.md Out of this exercise we highlight that the following items are specific to = BMWG or IPPM today: - applications running over public and private networks - including endpoints in production and lab environments. Where in lab envi= ronments the testing procedures ensure consistent, reproducible, and report= able benchmarking results. - The WG will also produce terminology documents and recommendations concer= ning the key performance characteristics of internetworking technologies, o= r benchmarks for network devices, systems, and services. We added new items to the charter based on recent working group discussions - IETF protocols at different layers - documenting common security building blocks - The WG will also produce terminology documents and recommendati= ons - the WG will specify related manageability aspects, such as YANG= data models for configuration, operation, and Network Telemetry data expor= t - Layer 2 applications can be covered as well but require explici= t approval from the Responsible Area Director. - It specifically coordinates with other WGs such as MPLS, 6MAN, = and SPRING where data plane encapsulations are specified. - The WG liaises with other Standards Development Organizations s= uch as ITU-T, IEEE, 3GPP, and BBF and reaches out to other operator communi= ties such as NANOG, RIPE, and APRICOT. Many thanks to Carsten, Luis, Med, Qin, Marcus, Giuseppe and Sarah for this= proposal. We would like to get reviews and feedback on the joint charter proposal fro= m both working groups. And in particular, we also invite BMWG and IPPM auth= ors to check whether the newly proposed joint charter covers their work acc= urately. - Do you believe that this joint charter covers your existing and= future work? - Do you believe it describes and scopes accurately the current a= nd future work of both working groups? - Is something missing or should be omitted? Why? Please comment on this thread and also feel free to open change proposals h= ere: https://github.com/ietf-ippm/wg-charter/issues We intend to follow up also with the MPLS, 6MAN, and SPRING working groups = once this discussion is stabilizing. Best wishes Qin, Giuseppe, Sarah, Marcus and Thomas --_000_ZR1P278MB11705E08587F4695ADF2F85E890C2ZR1P278MB1170CHEP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Aptos;} @font-face {font-family:"Trebuchet MS"; panose-1:2 11 6 3 2 2 2 2 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle20 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif; color:#0E2841; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt; mso-ligatures:none;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 56.7pt 70.85pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style> </head> <body lang=3D"DE-CH" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:brea= k-word"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear = Tim,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>= </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US">We are about to prepare another charter proposal update. I would = appreciate if you could review my proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US">And of course, anybody else on the mailing list who likes to comm= ent or has different suggestions, please join the conversation.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US">Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US">Thomas </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tre= buchet MS",sans-serif;color:gray"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo= nt-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-= US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> = Graf Thomas, SCS-INI-NET-VNC-E2E <br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 1, 2026 9:32 AM<br> <b>To:</b> 'Tim Chown' <[email protected]>; [email protected]; bmwg@ie= tf.org<br> <b>Cc:</b> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: Joint BMWG/IPPM chartering<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US">Dear Tim,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US">Thanks a lot! These are very good points. As an individual, see i= nline my feedback and proposals how to address this in the proposed charter.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US">Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-langua= ge:EN-US">Thomas</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:gray"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>= </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo= nt-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-= US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> = Tim Chown <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]<= /a>> <br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2026 11:20 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Graf Thomas, SCS-INI-NET-VNC-E2E <<a href=3D"mailto:Thomas.Gr= af-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]">Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:bmwg@= ietf.org"> [email protected]</a><br> <b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>= ; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"> [email protected]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">ops-ads@ietf.= org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Joint BMWG/IPPM chartering<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding= =3D"0" align=3D"left" width=3D"100%" style=3D"width:100.0%"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"background:#CF4A0C;padding:5.0pt 2.0pt 5.0pt 2.0pt"></td> <td width=3D"100%" style=3D"width:100.0%;background:#FFF8E5;padding:5.0pt 4= .0pt 5.0pt 12.0pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:= 2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-el= ement-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> <b><span style=3D"color:#222222">Be aware:</span></b><span style=3D"color:#= 222222"> This is an external email.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p= > </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span>= </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I think this is a good, = firm strawman and something that should definitely be taken forward. Thank = you for the work in getting this far.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span>= </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">A few comments…<o:= p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span>= </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I don't understand the &= quot;<span style=3D"background:white">the WG is responsible for documenting= common security building blocks and guidance” line. What are th= ese building blocks? To someone just reading this charter, it’s not clear. Security of measurement protocols? Measu= rement of security appliances? Something else?</span></span><o:p></o:= p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">TG> Correct. T= his needs to be set into context. How about<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Before:<o:p></o:p= ></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">The xxxx WG foste= rs commonality and comparability of metrics and measurements across IETF pr= otocols at different layers. Also, the WG is responsible for documenting common security building blocks and guidance.<o:p></o:p></= span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">After:<o:p></o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">The xxxx WG foste= rs commonality and comparability of metrics and measurements across IETF pr= otocols at different layers. Also, the WG is responsible for documenting common security building blocks and guidance for methodolo= gies and measurement protocols, including guidance on how to handle sensiti= ve and vulnerable metrics.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I assume the nature of t= he work in <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-qoo/">https://d= atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-qoo/</a> remains covered by th= e new charter. The text doesn’t explicitly mention quality assessment= frameworks and scoring. <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span>= </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Second, i= t would be a nice nod to Dave T=E4ht to explicitly mention bufferbloat dete= ction in the charter, with related work like in particular </span><span style=3D"color:black"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness/"><span lang=3D"EN-US">https://datatrack= er.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness/</span></a></span><span lang= =3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">TG> Both are g= ood points which should be clearly mentioned. How about<o:p></o:p></span></= p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Before:<o:p></o:p= ></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">The WG will also = produce terminology documents and recommendations concerning the key perfor= mance characteristics of internetworking technologies, or benchmarks for network devices, systems, and services.<o:p></o:p></span= ></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">After:<o:p></o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">The WG will also = produce terminology documents and recommendations concerning the key perfor= mance characteristics of internetworking technologies, or benchmarks for network devices, systems, and services. This includes al= so quality assessment frameworks, scoring, and bufferbloat detection.<o:p><= /o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">The relat= ed WGs (well, RGs) should probably include maprg, both for the work it does= that may lead to new proposals for protocol work, and its testing of draft= s/protocols under development in the new combined WG.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">TG> I think th= e relationship with MAPRG falls under collaboration and therefore could be = mentioned like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Before:<o:p></o:p= ></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">The WG closely co= llaborates with the Performance Metrics Directorate per the guidance in BCP= 170.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">After:<o:p></o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">The WG closely co= llaborates with the Performance Metrics Directorate per the guidance in BCP= 170 and also with MAPRG.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbs= p;</o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">And consi= dering something I’m involved with at the moment, is measurement of j= umbo frame MTU operation in scope for this WG, e.g., testing for 9000 MTU e= nd-to-end? </span><span style=3D"color:black">It’s not clear to me from reading = the text. Do we need to add any paragraph about what’s NOT in s= cope, or do we leave it up to the WG to decide what it can adopt?<o:p></o:p= ></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">TG> From my po= int of few, this is already to detailed for a charter item. Perhaps others = have a different opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p>= </span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I’ve not added the= se as issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">TG> Let me kno= w your thoughts and suggestions on the proposals. I can add them then to th= e issues: <a href=3D"https://github.com/ietf-ippm/wg-charter/issues">https://github.c= om/ietf-ippm/wg-charter/issues</a><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbs= p;</o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p= > </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span>= </p> </div> <div id=3D"mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 26/04/2026, 09:02, "<a href=3D"mailto:Thomas= .Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]">Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]</a>" <<a href=3D"mailt= o:Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]">Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]</a>> wrote:<o:p></o= :p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">Dear BMWG and IPPM,</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">On behalf of the chairs. At IETF 125 we had a = public joint chartering session onsite. In that session and during the disc= ussion afterwards, we consolidated and simplified the existing charters</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#467886"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.i= etf.org/wg/bmwg/about/"><span style=3D"color:#467886">https://datatracker.i= etf.org/wg/bmwg/about/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#467886"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.i= etf.org/wg/ippm/about/"><span style=3D"color:#467886">https://datatracker.i= etf.org/wg/ippm/about/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">for a new joint charter proposal</span><o:p></= o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#467886"><a href=3D"https://github.com/ie= tf-ippm/wg-charter/blob/main/ippm-bmwg-joint.md"><span style=3D"color:#4678= 86">https://github.com/ietf-ippm/wg-charter/blob/main/ippm-bmwg-joint.md</s= pan></a></span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">Out of this exercise we highlight that the fol= lowing items are specific to BMWG or IPPM today:</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- applications running over public and private= networks</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- including endpoints in production and lab en= vironments. Where in lab environments the testing procedures ensure consist= ent, reproducible, and reportable benchmarking results.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- The WG will also produce terminology documen= ts and recommendations concerning the key performance characteristics of in= ternetworking technologies, or benchmarks for network devices, systems, and services.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">We added new items to the charter based on rec= ent working group discussions</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; IETF protocols at different layers</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; documenting common security building blocks</span><o:p></o:= p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; The WG will also produce terminology documents and recommen= dations</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; the WG will specify related manageability aspects, such as = YANG data models for configuration, operation, and Network Telemetry data e= xport</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; Layer 2 applications can be covered as well but require exp= licit approval from the Responsible Area Director.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; It specifically coordinates with other WGs such as MPLS, 6M= AN, and SPRING where data plane encapsulations are specified.</span><o:p></= o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; The WG liaises with other Standards Development Organizatio= ns such as ITU-T, IEEE, 3GPP, and BBF and reaches out to other operator com= munities such as NANOG, RIPE, and APRICOT.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">Many thanks to Carsten, Luis, Med, Qin, Marcus= , Giuseppe and Sarah for this proposal.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">We would like to get reviews and feedback on t= he joint charter proposal from both working groups. And in particular, we a= lso invite BMWG and IPPM authors to check whether the newly proposed joint charter covers their work accurately.</span><o:p>= </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; Do you believe that this joint charter covers your existing= and future work?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; Do you believe it describes and scopes accurately the curre= nt and future work of both working groups?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">- &nb= sp; Is something missing or should be omitted? Why?</span><o:p>= </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">Please comment on this thread and also feel fr= ee to open change proposals here: <span style=3D"color:#467886"><a href=3D"https://github.com/ietf-ippm/wg-ch= arter/issues"><span style=3D"color:#467886">https://github.com/ietf-ippm/wg= -charter/issues</span></a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">We intend to follow up also with the MPLS, 6MA= N, and SPRING working groups once this discussion is stabilizing.</span><o:= p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">Best wishes</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr= ebuchet MS",sans-serif">Qin, Giuseppe, Sarah, Marcus and Thomas</span>= <o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_ZR1P278MB11705E08587F4695ADF2F85E890C2ZR1P278MB1170CHEP_-- ------=_Part_582239_1677058945.1779514567530 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s; smime-type=signed-data Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCAMIIG ODCCBCCgAwIBAgIUSsUJVqoGHtAgGVpYDZmJSjsiHI0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwUjELMAkGA1UE BhMCQ0gxFTATBgNVBAoTDFN3aXNzU2lnbiBBRzEsMCoGA1UEAwwjU3dpc3NTaWduIFJTQSBTTUlN RSBNViBJQ0EgMjAyNCAtIDEwHhcNMjUwMzI2MDU0OTA3WhcNMjgwMzI2MDU0OTA3WjBMMSEwHwYD 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