Re: WG Last Call:dratf-ietf-bridge-ext-v2-03.txt

John Flick <[email protected]> Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:15:22 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.bridge
Message-ID <[email protected]>
See inline.

Thanks,
John

David Levi wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've fixed some of these items, as described below, in the nroff 
> sources, so we'll have the changes in the next draft when/if it is 
> submitted.
> 
> -Dave
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:40 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Congdon, Paul T
> Subject: Re: [Bridge-mib] WG Last Call:dratf-ietf-bridge-ext-v2-03.txt
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have the following comments on this draft.  I have divided my comments 
> into introductory text, P-BRIDGE-MIB, and Q-BRIDGE-MIB.
> 
> Introductory text comments:

> 2. References to RFC 1493 should refer to the updated version
>     in draft-ietf-bridge-bridgemib-smiv2-07.txt.
> DBL> I don't think it makes sense to change this, since these references
> DBL> will just need to be updated to the new RFC number for
> DBL> draft-ietf-bridge-bridgemib-smiv2-07.txt when it is published as an
> DBL> RFC.

Making this change would help the RFC editor find the places that need
to be updated to refer to the new RFC when published, as well as
alerting the RFC editor to the dependency between these two drafts in
case one gets approved by the IESG before the other.

> 6. In Section 2, the following sentence:
> 
>     "IEEE 802.1Q defined port-based Virtual LANs where membership
>     is determined by the bridge port on which data frames are
>     received"
> 
>     should be updated for protocol VLANs.
> DBL> Can you suggest some text?

"IEEE 802.1Q defines port-based Virtual LANs where membership is
determined by the bridge port on which data frames are received, and
port-and-protocol-based Virtual LANs where membership is determined
by the bridge port on which frames are received and the protocol
identifier of the frame."

Note: I picked on consistency with protocol VLANs in my comments
because we define MIB objects in this document for managing
protocol VLANs.  This is not so much an issue of alignment with
the latest version of 802.1Q as it is an issue of internal
consistency of this document.

> 13. Much of the text in section 3.4.3 is about to be rendered obsolete
>      by draft-ietf-bridge-bridgemib-smiv2-07.txt.
> DBL> Is there anything in this section that will *not* be rendered
> DBL> obsolete, and so should not be removed?

A minimal change would be to remove the note about compliance statements
not existing because the MIB uses SMIv1.

> P-BRIDGE-MIB comments:

> 4. Description of dot1dPortOutboundAccessPriority seems wrong - outbound
>     definition talks about received frame instead of transmitted frame.
> DBL> Can others on the mailing-list verify this?  The current wording is
> DBL> the same as was in RFC 2674.

We may want to leave this for IEEE to fix.  802.1D-1998 seems a bit
inconsistent here - the text in section 7.5.1 suggests that the outbound
access priority should be mapped from the regenerated user priority, but
the text in 7.7.5 seems to say that it should be mapped from the
user_priority in the receive data indication, which would be the receive
user_priority before the regenerated user priority mapping is applied.


> Q-BRIDGE-MIB comments:

> 3. dot1qForwardAllStaticPorts description talks about non-EFS behaviour,
>     but the acronym EFS has not been defined, and does not appear
>     anywhere else in this document.
> DBL> What would you suggest we change?  Perhaps adding a REFERENCE to
> DBL> this object?

EFS probably means "extended filtering services", but the acronym is
never defined in either this document or in 802.1D.  This description
talks about non-EFS behavior.  802.1D refers to 802.1D-1990 filtering
behavior as "basic filtering services".  We should just replace
"non-EFS behavior" with "basic filtering services behavior".


> 4. The description of dot1qPortAcceptableFrameTypes is no longer
>     accurate with protocol VLANs.
> DBL> Can you suggest how to change the text?

In the first paragraph of the description, replace "assigned to the
PVID for this port" with "assigned based on the PVID and VID Set for
this port".