Re: Status of the CALSCH working group

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>
> Would it be possible to get someone like Nathaniel Borenstein to take 
> the role of a co-editor (if he is interested)? It would help to have a 
> seasoned veteran of the IETF process to help move things forward.
>
I would have no problem working with someone. Until my recent post 
(should precede this
one on the list from me). I have not commented on the chairs 
participation - or lack of.
I have been directed by  Pat and Ned not to change things, yet Pat does not
even comment on posts requesting new action items be opened or on old 
closed items
be reopened.

Pat - I have sent you private email in the past and asked that you 
remind people
that I can not change things and that old items are closed for this 
version of CAP
and my emails have not been responded to in any way. Plus you have not 
returned
ANY of my phone calls on creating a new action item list.  And the same with
Bruce  (email only), I have reached out trying to find ways of trying
to resolve issues, you (and others) did not respond. at all. Please do 
not lay
the blame on me or this list, if you have action items, post the action 
item, and Pat you are
going to need to reply to those posts and say "no new items" or "yes 
this one
needs to be added". Letting people think that I can unilaterally 
add/delete/change
things is causing some people to get stressed out.

There was an action item list. And items were closed and the list went 
to zero items, and
yet some think that if they keep re-posting their objection to debates 
that they lost,
did not participate in (most of the time this one hits the mark), or 
misunderstood, they they can
get their way. No one can respond to all of  the requests for history to 
research each and
every item. And even if they did have the time - so what? They seem to 
NOT be comments
on the usability of CAP as written. They seem to be complaints about the 
process (legitimate but
not a CAP stopper). *I* will not open closed items - Pat you can if you 
want as that
is part of your role, but you have to do it, and declare it on the list, 
or declare items as closed.

It will not matter who the editors are, if the chairs can not call consensus
when ever there is even one objection, no draft will ever get published.

I really am doing my best, but without the chairs calling consensus on 
*any* CAP
items, and without the chairs declaring any CAP debate or CAP action 
item *ever* as
closed in the last year (or more) the only way CAP will ship is when 
100% of the list agrees.
Simply saying 'I can not find where this was discussed' is not 
sanctioned reason
for me to change/edit/delete an item. And I am not the one that carries 
the burden
do disprove all claims.

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