Re: [Ietf-calsify] TZ: polygon

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Cyrus Daboo wrote:
> Hi Doug,
> 
> --On Friday, July 08, 2005 11:03:09 AM -0600 Doug Royer <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>>> The point is POLYGON is not defined in 2445 - it something new and we
>>> should have some solid justification for adding new things to iCalendar
>>> right now.
>>
>>
>> It is not being proposed as part of CALSIFY.
>>
>> I simply replied to the email on this list.
>> I have redirected it to calsch to avoid the confusion.
> 
> 
> Well strictly speaking calsify has taken over from calsch. Certainly in 
> this case 2445 is clear that new properties have to be registered and it 
> does describe an approval process for doing that, but does not define 
> the registry itself. That would certainly have to be fixed BEFORE you 
> could even define POLYGON etc in your draft. If I am mistaken, one of 
> calsify's jobs was to formalise the property/parameter etc registry.

And the TZ draft is following the 2445 registration process.

> I believe we should not wait for that registry to be setup. We need to 
> get a timezone registry up and running as it might be crucial for 
> helping vendors and users migrate their timezone definitions if the US 
> government ultimately decides to proceed with its plan to change the 
> definition of daylight savings time in the US next year. If you're not 
> aware of what I am talking about see:
> 
> <http://www.calconnect.org/dstadvisorynotice.html>

I am not a member of that private organization. I do not follow what
they do, or do not do, unless it happens to be posted on an open
mailing lists like this one.

As you know the registration process and discussion has to be discussed
on this mailing list to be registered. It does not count that a closed
mailing list also had a non-public discussion.

I am following the open IETF processes as defined in 2445. Versions
of this proposal on this mailing list have taken place for several
years. The polygon idea was not mine, it was a request for addition
to the proposal years ago. Its optional. You do not have to use it.


-- 

Doug Royer                     | http://INET-Consulting.com
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