[OPSAWG]Re: draft-netana-opsawg-ipfix-gpon-gem-00

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Dear Paul and Scott,

I merged the input from Paul on which bits should be encoded for the gponGe=
mPti IE.

https://author-tools.ietf.org/diff?doc_1=3Ddraft-netana-opsawg-ipfix-gpon-g=
em-00&url_2=3Dhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com/network-analytics/draft-net=
ana-opsawg-ipfix-gpon-gem/refs/heads/main/draft-netana-opsawg-ipfix-gpon-ge=
m-01.txt

I understood that both of you wanted to reach out to the ITU-T wherever the=
re is an existing GEM PTI (Section 8.3.1 G.984.3) registry where an IPFIX s=
ubregistry (https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipfix/ipfix.xhtml) could refer=
 to. We like at the IPFIX IANA managed registry to avoid duplication wherev=
er possible since later they will be hard to manage.=20

The ITU-T registry should be machine readable since there are IPFIX data co=
llection implementations (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/cgxH=
tKqO9Yks7wSFXr5HGDI0yUE/) which obtain the IPFIX definitions from the IANA =
registry automatically.

Let me know wherever you had any feedback and wherever I can help in anyway=
 like establishing a liaison between ITU-T and OPSAWG/CCAMP.

Best wishes
Thomas

-----Original Message-----
From: Graf Thomas, INI-NET-VNC-E2E=20
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2025 12:45 PM
To: Aitken, Paul <[email protected]>; draft-netana-opsawg-ipfix-gpon-gem@ie=
tf.org
Subject: RE: draft-netana-opsawg-ipfix-gpon-gem-00

Dear Paul,

That's very much appreciated. srhFlagsIPv6 is a good example which refers t=
o https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-parameters/ipv6-parameters.xhtml#se=
gment-routing-header-flags. If that would not be possible we would need to =
re-create the registry as in dataLinkFrameType and refer to the ITU-T docum=
ent.

The challenge I see is that all ITU-T documents are listed here: https://ww=
w.itu.int/rec/T-REC-G/en and for G.984.3 here https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC=
-G/recommendation.asp?lang=3Den&parent=3DT-REC-G.984.3, but I wasn't able t=
o find a registry. I will raise this today at the CCAMP interim and feedbac=
k when I have infos.

Best wishes
Thomas

-----Original Message-----
From: Aitken, Paul <[email protected]>=20
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2025 10:43 AM
To: Graf Thomas, INI-NET-VNC-E2E <Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>; draft-netana-o=
[email protected]
Subject: Re: draft-netana-opsawg-ipfix-gpon-gem-00


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Thomas, I agree that it's good to avoid duplicate registries.

The IE definition could point directly to the corresponding ITU definitions=
. Even better, we could create a new IPFIX sub-registry which points to the=
 ITU definition.

In either case the definition should clearly say whether it's intended to o=
nly use the ITU definition at the the time of publication, or to follow all=
 future updates. eg, if one of the Reserved values is defined in future.

This could be the first time for such an IPFIX definition (where the full d=
etails are external to the registry), so I've asked IANA for their advice.

P.


On 09/04/25 06:16, Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected] wrote:
> Dear Paul,
>
> Thanks for the review. Well spotted. I will consolidate the terminology i=
n section 2 once the document is mature and complete.
>
> I will extend the description in both IE's describing that the first 3 re=
sp. 12 bits are being used.
>
> Section 8.3.1 of https://www.itu.int/rec/dologin_pub.asp?lang=3De&id=3DT-=
REC-G.984.3-201401-I!!PDF-E&type=3Ditems defines the PTI registry. I like t=
o avoid that we are replicating this in IPFIX so that we have to maintain t=
wo registries. Would it be ok if I describe under Additional Information wh=
ere the registry is? What is your recommendation?
>
> Best wishes
> Thomas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aitken, Paul <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 9:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: draft-netana-opsawg-ipfix-gpon-gem-00
>
>
> Be aware: This is an external email.
>
>
>
> In section 2 the terminology can be reduced as many of those terms are no=
t used elsewhere in the document.
>
> In section 5.1.1. please describe how the 3 bits are encoded into the
> unsigned8: which of the 8 bits are used, and what is the ordering?
>
> Likewise in section 5.1.2. please describe how the 12 bits are encoded in=
to the unsigned16.
>
> Thanks,
> P.
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