[Lsr] YANG deVELpment PrOCEss & maintenance (VELOCE): CCAMP/LSR/TEAS

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Hi CCAMP/LSR/TEAS,

As you know, there are several issues with the current operation mode for d=
eveloping YANG modules within the IETF. Also, experience with some recent b=
is doc in teas (for example) further revealed to need for a different appro=
ach to handle such maintenance effort.  As an attempt to address some those=
, OPSAWG is considering a process experiment called VELOCE for developing Y=
ANG modules [1].

There is on overall sketch of the new VELOCE process, but not all details a=
re set. We still need to agree collectively on the goals of this effort (wh=
ether we are aiming for speed, quality, or enabling others with distinct sk=
ills to contribute). There are different perspectives from those who write =
the specifications vs those who code or review code, so we should consider =
a range of criteria. The experiment may not be necessarily about doing thin=
gs faster, but differently. We need to find the right balance and frame the=
se goals clearly. I don't expect we will resolve all issues with the first =
version of VELOCE, but we need to start at some point and iterate. The tool=
ing is also important here. This is why we started by providing IETF-OPS-AD=
/I-D-with-yang-template: A template repository for Internet-Draft with YANG=
 Modules management<https://github.com/IETF-OPS-AD/I-D-with-yang-template>.

Given the LSR/CCAMP/TEAS experience in defining/maintaining YANG modules an=
d that you are familiar with issues with developing YANG modules in RFCs, y=
our perspective and inputs are highly welcomed.

In order to have the new process right, we are looking for candidates of bi=
s documents but also completely new modules who are willing to exercise the=
 new process and help adjust it as needed. Hence, this call for interest an=
d volunteers. I already noted that Italo/Aihua/Oscar has some ideas.

If you are interested to contribute, please send a note to OPSAWG or direct=
ly to Mahesh or myself.

Cheers,
Med

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/125/materials/minutes-125-opsawg-00

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">Hi CCAMP/LSR/TEAS,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">As you know, there are several issues with the current opera=
tion mode for developing YANG modules within the IETF. Also, experience wit=
h some recent bis doc in teas (for example) further
 revealed to need for a different approach to handle such maintenance effor=
t. &nbsp;As an attempt to address some those, OPSAWG is considering a proce=
ss experiment called VELOCE for developing YANG modules [1].<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">There is on overall sketch of the new VELOCE process, but no=
t all details are set. We still need to agree collectively on the goals of =
this effort (whether we are aiming for speed, quality,
 or enabling others with distinct skills to contribute). There are differen=
t perspectives from those who write the specifications vs those who code or=
 review code, so we should consider a range of criteria. The experiment may=
 not be necessarily about doing
 things faster, but differently. We need to find the right balance and fram=
e these goals clearly. I don&#8217;t expect we will resolve all issues with=
 the first version of VELOCE, but we need to start at some point and iterat=
e. The tooling is also important here.
 This is why we started by providing </span><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Courier New&quot;"><a href=3D"https://github.com/IETF-OPS-AD/I-D-with-yan=
g-template"><span lang=3D"EN-US">IETF-OPS-AD/I-D-with-yang-template: A temp=
late repository for Internet-Draft with YANG Modules
 management</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Courier New&quot;">.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">Given the LSR/CCAMP/TEAS experience in defining/maintaining =
YANG modules and that you are familiar with issues with developing YANG mod=
ules in RFCs, your perspective and inputs are highly
 welcomed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">In order to have the new process right, we are looking for c=
andidates of bis documents but also completely new modules who are willing =
to exercise the new process and help adjust it as
 needed. Hence, this call for interest and volunteers. I already noted that=
 Italo/Aihua/Oscar has some ideas.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">If you are interested to contribute, please send a note to O=
PSAWG or directly to Mahesh or myself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">Med<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">[1] <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/125/mate=
rials/minutes-125-opsawg-00">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/125/materials/minutes-125-opsawg-00</a=
> <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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