[ippm] Re: [CCAMP]Re: Working group adoption poll on d raft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04

"Daniele Ceccarelli \(dceccare\)" <dceccare=40cisco.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]> Tue, 26 May 2026 13:20:27 +0000
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Hi CCAMP, IPPM, wgs

In agreement with Ketan, Med and IPPM WG chairs we decided NOT to proceed w=
ith the adoption of this document in CCAMP.

The document, while being related to CCAMP, defines PM mechanisms and model=
s with a broader scope and hence beyond the CCAMP chater.

Bin and the authors will provide an analysis of how to best break the work =
down into components that fit into the various working groups (IPPM, CCAMP =
and potentially others). If this will not influence the usability of the mo=
del, we will split it in multiple documents with multiple homes, otherwise =
the document will be progressed in the working group where it fits the best=
 (most likely IPPM) with a joint effort from CCAMP and IPPM.

Thanks
Daniele, Luis, Fatai
________________________________
From: Qin Wu <bill.wu=3D40huawei.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2026 13:38
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [CCAMP]Re: Working group adoption poll on draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-stre=
aming-04


Hi, Authors:

I forward this adoption poll call to IPPM WG since It seems to me that this=
 draft more focuses on generic measurement method and metrics and not speci=
fic to optical network. One quick comment to measurement timing, if my unde=
rstanding is correct, this measurement timing is used to measure metrics or=
 KPIs within network element, the measuring timing parameters include time-=
related parameters of sampling, measuring, and reporting performance data. =
I am wondering whether measuring interval is same as reporting interval, si=
nce I didn=92t see reporting interval is specified in this draft.



-Qin

[CCAMP]Working group adoption poll on draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04

"Daniele Ceccarelli (dceccare)" <[email protected]> Fri, 20 March 2026 07:=
40 UTCShow header<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ccamp/_mpRnupqH9A9M=
BRTm-O3l2Ko1Mk/>

Hi working group,



As discussed during the CCAMP session at IETF 125 we're starting the workin=
g group adoption call on draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04.



The polling will last 2 weeks till Friday April 3rd.





Thanks,

Daniele, Fatai, Luis



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Bin and the authors will provide an analysis of how to best break the work =
down into components that fit into the various working groups (IPPM, CCAMP =
and potentially others). If this will not influence the usability of the mo=
del, we will split it in multiple
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pt; font-family:Monaco; color:#212529">I forward this adoption poll call to=
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rement method and metrics and not specific to optical network. One quick co=
mment to measurement timing, if my understanding is correct, this measureme=
nt timing is used to measure metrics or KPIs within network element, the me=
asuring timing parameters include time-related parameters of sampling, meas=
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pt; font-family:Monaco; color:#212529">The polling will last 2 weeks till F=
riday April 3rd.</span></pre>
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