Re: Deleting an activity

Manfred Baedke <[email protected]> Tue, 30 May 2006 11:53:03 +0200
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Hi Werner,

since the current wording of section 3.13 does not do any harm and there=20
is no need to mention explicitly the possibility of rejecting a DELETE=20
request on an activity resource, I do not think that this is really an=20
issue. Again, a server may fail any request for whatever reason.

Regards,
Manfred

Werner Donn=E9 wrote:
> Hi Manfred,
>
> Perhaps the pre-condition in section 3.13 could be replaced with a
> final paragraph in the section saying that the operation may be
> rejected. It is also formulated like that in other areas of the
> specification, such as when the update of some property may be
> rejected. Such a paragraph would in place for section 13.8 too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Werner.
>
> Manfred Baedke wrote:
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>> Hi Werner,
>>
>> being a MAY requirement, the precondition definition in section 3.13 i=
s
>> nothing really normative. Maybe its only me, but I find the concept of=
 a
>> precondition containing only MAY requirements rather strange.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Manfred
>>
>> Werner Donn=E9 wrote:
>>    =20
>>> Hi Manfred,
>>>
>>> Shouldn't then a pre-condition be added in section 13.8 of RFC 3253,
>>> analogous to the one in section 3.13?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Werner.
>>>
>>> Manfred Baedke wrote:
>>>  =20
>>>      =20
>>>> Hi Werner,
>>>>
>>>> This is of course allowed, IMHO. More generally, a server is allowed=
 to
>>>> reject the deletion of any resource for whatever reason.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Manfred
>>>>
>>>> Werner Donn=E9 wrote:
>>>>    =20
>>>>        =20
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> When an activity is deleted all references to it should be removed.
>>>>> Versions that have the activity in their activity-set, for example,
>>>>> should have their activity-set updated. Versions, which were create=
d
>>>>> on a branch represented by the activity, all of the sudden are not
>>>>> on that branch anymore and in an implicit way. This seems rather
>>>>> strange and dangerous. Would it be allowed to reject the deletion
>>>>> of the activity in this case?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Werner.
>>>>>  =20
>>>>>      =20
>>>>>          =20
>>>>    =20
>>>>        =20
>>>  =20
>>>      =20
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Hi Werner,<br>
<br>
since the current wording of section 3.13 does not do any harm and
there is no need to mention explicitly the possibility of rejecting a
DELETE request on an activity resource, I do not think that this is
really an issue. Again, a server may fail any request for whatever
reason.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Manfred<br>
<br>
Werner Donn&eacute; wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">Hi Manfred,

Perhaps the pre-condition in section 3.13 could be replaced with a
final paragraph in the section saying that the operation may be
rejected. It is also formulated like that in other areas of the
specification, such as when the update of some property may be
rejected. Such a paragraph would in place for section 13.8 too.

Regards,

Werner.

Manfred Baedke wrote:
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    <pre wrap="">Hi Werner,

being a MAY requirement, the precondition definition in section 3.13 is
nothing really normative. Maybe its only me, but I find the concept of a
precondition containing only MAY requirements rather strange.

Regards,
Manfred

Werner Donn&eacute; wrote:
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      <pre wrap="">Hi Manfred,

Shouldn't then a pre-condition be added in section 13.8 of RFC 3253,
analogous to the one in section 3.13?

Regards,

Werner.

Manfred Baedke wrote:
  
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        <pre wrap="">Hi Werner,

This is of course allowed, IMHO. More generally, a server is allowed to
reject the deletion of any resource for whatever reason.

Regards,
Manfred

Werner Donn&eacute; wrote:
    
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          <pre wrap="">Hi,

When an activity is deleted all references to it should be removed.
Versions that have the activity in their activity-set, for example,
should have their activity-set updated. Versions, which were created
on a branch represented by the activity, all of the sudden are not
on that branch anymore and in an implicit way. This seems rather
strange and dangerous. Would it be allowed to reject the deletion
of the activity in this case?

Regards,

Werner.
  
      
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