[dhcwg] Re: Reminder: WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over- dhcpv6-ra, respond by April 14, 2025

Alan DeKok <[email protected]> Fri, 11 Apr 2025 11:26:43 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.dhc
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  Yes, I support the document.

> On Apr 11, 2025, at 11:05 AM, Bernie Volz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alan … you don’t indicate if you support the document moving forward - but I’ll assume you do.
> 
> - Bernie (from iPad)
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2025, at 6:41 AM, Alan DeKok <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>   Nits, and nothing more.
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>> 
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>> Abstract:
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>> ...
>> This document specifies a RFC7341-based approach that allows DHCP 4o6 to be deployed as a Relay Agent (4o6RA) that implements the 4o6 DHCP encapsulation and decapsulation in contexts where it is not possible at the client.
>> ..
>> 
>> Bare "it" can be ambiguous.  Perhaps:
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>> ... where the client supports DHCPv4, but not DHPv6.
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>> Section 3:
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>> All prerequisites and configuration that apply to the DHCP client in Section 5 of [RFC7341] shall be applied to 4o6RA instead.
>> ...
>> 
>> "instead" seems an odd choice.  "Instead of" ... what?  Perhaps:
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>> As the 4o6RA is acting as a DHCP 4o6 client, all prerequisites and configuration that apply to the DHCP client in Section 5 of [RFC7341] shall be applied to the 4o6RA.
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>> Section 3:
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>> ...
>> When DHCPV4-RESPONSE Message is received by the 4o6 Relay Agent, it looks for the DHCPv4 Message option within this message. If this option is not found, the DHCPv4-response message MUST be discarded. If the DHCPv4 Message option is present, the 4o6RA MUST extract the DHCPv4 message and forward the encapsulated DHCPv4-response to the requesting DHCPv4 client.
>> ...
>> 
>> Q: should the 4o6RA validate that the DHCPv4 message is well-formed?
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>> Section 3:
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>> Layer 2 Relay Agents receiving DHCPV4-QUERY or DHCPV4-RESPONSE messages are expected to handle them as specified in Section 6 of [RFC6221].
>> ..
>> 
>> "are expected" seems more philosophical than normative to me.  Perhaps "MUST handle them..."
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>> Section 3.2:
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>> In order to preserve the topology information, it is recommended that the implementation of 4o6RA
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>> Perhaps normative it is RECOMMENDED
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>> Section 4:
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>> As clients are not aware of the presence of 4o6RA, the network deployment needs to ensure that all DHCPv4 broadcast and unicast messages from clients are steered to a 4o6RA. This can, e.g., be
>> ...
>> 
>> The "e.g." doesn't seem necessary and can be omitted.
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>> Section 4:
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>> ...
>> achieved by placing the 4o6RA in a central position that can observe all traffic from the clients or use of address translation
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>> 
>> "or use of" --> "or use"
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>> Section 5:
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>> This mechanism differs from [RFC7341] as the DHCP client sends and receives DHCPv4 messages, whereas in [RFC7341] it only sends DHCPv6 messages.
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>> 
>> This seems ambiguous until read a few times.  Perhaps;
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>> The mechanism defined here differs from [RFC7341] as we allow the DHCP client to send and receive DHCPv4 messages, whereas in [RFC7341] the client only sends DHCPv6 messages.
>> 
>> And continuing:
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>> This makes it possible that DHCPv4 messages could reach a DHCPv4 server without using the 4o6RA
>> ..
>> 
>> This... what?  Perhaps:
>> 
>> Without 4o6RA, a DHCP client could send DHCPv4 messages that could reach a DHCPv4 server, ???
>> 
>> Resulting in different views of the network?  What practical problems are there if a DHCP client does DHCPv4 to one server, and DHCPv6 to a different server?
>> 
>> ...
>> While this can cause erroneous state in both clients and servers
>> ...
>> 
>> Such as?
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2025, at 6:00 AM, Bernie Volz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a reminder regarding this WGLC. We haven’t received any comments either for or against this work.
>>> 
>>> - Bernie Volz
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2025, at 11:54 AM, Bernie Volz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi:
>>>> 
>>>> The DHC WG is starting a WGLC on the draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-ra document (see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-ra/).
>>>> 
>>>> Please review the document and send comments by April 14, 2025.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> - Bernie for DHC WG
>>> 
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