[dhcwg] Re: Call for topics for dhc WG session at IETF-124 , reply by 9/16/25
Tommy Jensen <[email protected]> Wed, 3 Sep 2025 12:05:17 -0700
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0302714906653111790== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------OdIoml0HmThVOADPIBIrbJsd" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------OdIoml0HmThVOADPIBIrbJsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Coauthor of the concat considerations draft here: a few folks signed up to review at IETF 122, but nothing came in. We have waited to rev the draft to react to said reviews. I know what losing track of reviews is like, so I'm not complaining, but just explaining why we've let it expire. As far as we are concerned, it's adoption ready now, but we definitely need some amount of interest/review before we can ask for adoption with a straight face. That said, relative to the session question, I have no strong opinion. I think we could handle these topics over email, but I will attend an in-person meeting if there is one. Thanks, Tommy On 9/2/25 16:21, Bernie Volz wrote: > Hi: > > Tim and I are looking for whether a DHC WG session is worth having in > Montreal at IETF-124. > > Please respond by *September 16th* if you have topics you would like > to present if we do hold a session. > > While our WG drafts are in good shape (@ RFC editor), there are 4 > “related drafts” on the datatracker: > > Related Internet-Drafts and RFCs (4 hits) > > 6 pages > draft-zhul-dhc-bnc-up-specific-suboption-00 > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhul-dhc-bnc-up-specific-suboption/> > Broadband Network UP-Specific Information Suboption for the DHCP Relay > Agent Option > 2025-08-03 I-D Exists > > > 9 pages > draft-nygren-dhc-recommended-ipv6-address-01 > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nygren-dhc-recommended-ipv6-address/> > DHCPv6 Recommended IPv6 Address Option > 2025-07-04 I-D Exists > > > 7 pages > draft-lin-dhc-dhcpv6-active-leasequery-quic-00 > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lin-dhc-dhcpv6-active-leasequery-quic/> > DHCPv6 Active Leasequery over QUIC > 2025-04-24 I-D Exists > > > 7 pages > draft-tojens-dhcp-option-concat-considerations-01 > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tojens-dhcp-option-concat-considerations/> > DHCP Option Concatenation Considerations > 2025-03-03 > Expires soon I-D Exists > > > > The first two are for new options, neither of which technically > require this WG to “do” - though not sure if there is a better home > for these? > > The QUIC draft is an interesting question as to whether this is > needed, but it also isn’t a big deal if someone finds it useful and is > willing to move it forward and implement it. > > The concat considerations was never updated after the March IETF > discussion? Not sure if maybe interest in it has waned? > > Not sure if there’s anything else lurking out there? > > Thanks in advance! > > - Bernie > > _______________________________________________ > dhcwg mailing list [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email [email protected] --------------OdIoml0HmThVOADPIBIrbJsd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> Coauthor of the concat considerations draft here: a few folks signed up to review at IETF 122, but nothing came in. We have waited to rev the draft to react to said reviews. I know what losing track of reviews is like, so I'm not complaining, but just explaining why we've let it expire. As far as we are concerned, it's adoption ready now, but we definitely need some amount of interest/review before we can ask for adoption with a straight face.<br> <br> That said, relative to the session question, I have no strong opinion. I think we could handle these topics over email, but I will attend an in-person meeting if there is one.<br> <br> Thanks,<br> Tommy<br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/2/25 16:21, Bernie Volz wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:[email protected]"> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> Hi: <div><br> </div> <div>Tim and I are looking for whether a DHC WG session is worth having in Montreal at IETF-124.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Please respond by <b>September 16th</b> if you have topics you would like to present if we do hold a session.</div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">While our WG drafts are in good shape (@ RFC editor), there are 4 “related drafts” on the datatracker:</div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br> </div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"> <div class="x-apple-transform-wrapper" style="height: 207.328395px;"> <table class="table table-sm table-striped tablesorter tablesorter-done" style="font-size: 16px; 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font-size: 0.875em; --bs-text-opacity: 1; float: right !important; display: block !important;">6 pages</small> <div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhul-dhc-bnc-up-specific-suboption/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(33, 37, 41);" moz-do-not-send="true">draft-zhul-dhc-bnc-up-specific-suboption-00</a><br style="box-sizing: border-box;"> <span style="box-sizing: border-box;">Broadband Network UP-Specific Information Suboption for the DHCP Relay Agent Option</span></div> </td> <td class="bg-transparent date" style="box-sizing: border-box; border-color: inherit; border-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: var(--bs-border-width); border-left-width: 0px; --bs-bg-opacity: 1; box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 9999px var(--bs-table-bg-state,var(--bs-table-bg-type,var(--bs-table-accent-bg))); padding: 0.25rem; --bs-table-color-type: var(--bs-table-striped-color); --bs-table-bg-type: var(--bs-table-striped-bg);">2025-08-03</td> <td class="status bg-transparent" style="box-sizing: border-box; border-color: inherit; border-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: var(--bs-border-width); border-left-width: 0px; --bs-bg-opacity: 1; box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 9999px var(--bs-table-bg-state,var(--bs-table-bg-type,var(--bs-table-accent-bg))); padding: 0.25rem; --bs-table-color-type: var(--bs-table-striped-color); --bs-table-bg-type: var(--bs-table-striped-bg);">I-D Exists</td> <td class="text-center d-none d-sm-table-cell bg-transparent ipr" style="box-sizing: border-box; border-color: inherit; border-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: var(--bs-border-width); border-left-width: 0px; --bs-bg-opacity: 1; box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 9999px var(--bs-table-bg-state,var(--bs-table-bg-type,var(--bs-table-accent-bg))); padding: 0.25rem; --bs-table-color-type: var(--bs-table-striped-color); --bs-table-bg-type: var(--bs-table-striped-bg); text-align: center !important;"><br> </td> <td class="d-none d-sm-table-cell bg-transparent ad" style="box-sizing: border-box; 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border-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: var(--bs-border-width); border-left-width: 0px; --bs-bg-opacity: 1; box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 9999px var(--bs-table-bg-state,var(--bs-table-bg-type,var(--bs-table-accent-bg))); padding: 0.25rem;"><small class="float-end text-body-secondary d-none d-sm-block" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 0.875em; --bs-text-opacity: 1; float: right !important; display: block !important;">9 pages</small> <div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nygren-dhc-recommended-ipv6-address/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(33, 37, 41);" moz-do-not-send="true">draft-nygren-dhc-recommended-ipv6-address-01</a><br style="box-sizing: border-box;"> <span style="box-sizing: border-box;">DHCPv6 Recommended IPv6 Address Option</span></div> </td> <td class="bg-transparent date" style="box-sizing: border-box; border-color: inherit; border-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; 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border-color: inherit; border-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: var(--bs-border-width); border-left-width: 0px; --bs-bg-opacity: 1; box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 9999px var(--bs-table-bg-state,var(--bs-table-bg-type,var(--bs-table-accent-bg))); padding: 0.25rem; --bs-table-color-type: var(--bs-table-striped-color); --bs-table-bg-type: var(--bs-table-striped-bg);"><small class="float-end text-body-secondary d-none d-sm-block" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 0.875em; --bs-text-opacity: 1; float: right !important; display: block !important;">7 pages</small> <div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lin-dhc-dhcpv6-active-leasequery-quic/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(33, 37, 41);" moz-do-not-send="true">draft-lin-dhc-dhcpv6-active-leasequery-quic-00</a><br style="box-sizing: border-box;"> <span style="box-sizing: border-box;">DHCPv6 Active Leasequery over QUIC</span></div> </td> <td class="bg-transparent date" style="box-sizing: border-box; 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color: rgb(33, 37, 41);" moz-do-not-send="true">draft-tojens-dhcp-option-concat-considerations-01</a><br style="box-sizing: border-box;"> <span style="box-sizing: border-box;">DHCP Option Concatenation Considerations</span></div> </td> <td class="bg-transparent date" style="box-sizing: border-box; border-color: inherit; border-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: var(--bs-border-width); border-left-width: 0px; --bs-bg-opacity: 1; box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 9999px var(--bs-table-bg-state,var(--bs-table-bg-type,var(--bs-table-accent-bg))); padding: 0.25rem;">2025-03-03<br style="box-sizing: border-box;"> <span class="badge rounded-pill text-bg-warning" style="box-sizing: border-box; --bs-badge-padding-x: .65em; --bs-badge-padding-y: .35em; --bs-badge-font-size: .75em; --bs-badge-font-weight: 700; --bs-badge-color: #fff; --bs-badge-border-radius: var(--bs-border-radius); padding: var(--bs-badge-padding-y)var(--bs-badge-padding-x); font-size: var(--bs-badge-font-size); text-align: center; white-space: nowrap; vertical-align: baseline; line-height: 1; display: inline-block; color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-radius: var(--bs-border-radius-pill) !important;">Expires soon</span></td> <td class="status bg-transparent" style="box-sizing: border-box; border-color: inherit; border-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: var(--bs-border-width); border-left-width: 0px; --bs-bg-opacity: 1; box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 9999px var(--bs-table-bg-state,var(--bs-table-bg-type,var(--bs-table-accent-bg))); padding: 0.25rem;">I-D Exists</td> <td class="text-center d-none d-sm-table-cell bg-transparent ipr" style="box-sizing: border-box; border-color: inherit; border-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: var(--bs-border-width); border-left-width: 0px; --bs-bg-opacity: 1; box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 9999px var(--bs-table-bg-state,var(--bs-table-bg-type,var(--bs-table-accent-bg))); padding: 0.25rem; text-align: center !important;"><br> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br> </div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br> </div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">The first two are for new options, neither of which technically require this WG to “do” - though not sure if there is a better home for these?</div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br> </div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">The QUIC draft is an interesting question as to whether this is needed, but it also isn’t a big deal if someone finds it useful and is willing to move it forward and implement it.</div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br> </div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">The concat considerations was never updated after the March IETF discussion? Not sure if maybe interest in it has waned?</div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br> </div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Not sure if there’s anything else lurking out there?</div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br> </div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Thanks in advance!</div> <div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"> <div dir="ltr">- Bernie</div> </div> </div> <br> <fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset> <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">_______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list -- <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> To unsubscribe send an email to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------OdIoml0HmThVOADPIBIrbJsd-- --===============0302714906653111790== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KZGhjd2cgbWFp bGluZyBsaXN0IC0tIGRoY3dnQGlldGYub3JnClRvIHVuc3Vic2NyaWJlIHNlbmQgYW4gZW1haWwg dG8gZGhjd2ctbGVhdmVAaWV0Zi5vcmcK --===============0302714906653111790==--