[DNSOP] Re: [art] Re: DNS-designated Public Key Author ities (DKA)
"John Levine" <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | gmane.ietf.dnsop,gmane.ietf.apps-discuss |
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| Organization | Taughannock Networks |
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It appears that Ben Schwartz <[email protected]> said: >My preference would be to eliminate this TXT record from the design >entirely. Instead, DKA discovery could proceed via HTTP .well-known >on the email domain, in-band via new SMTP commands (with TLS >authentication), or in many other ways that do not allow an attacker >to intercept and replace users' keys with their own. While I generally agree with you, life is complicated. At a lot of organizations the people who run the mail and the people who run the website do not talk to each other. So if you want to publish key info for [email protected], and want to put it at https://example.com/.well-known/pubkey.txt or maybe https://example.com/.well-known/pubkey/bob.smith, you would often be told to forget it. RFC 8461 publishes info about mail TLS preferences called MTA-STS, and it fudges the issue by hijacking the label mta-sts, e.g. the policy is at https://mta-sts.example.com/.well-known/mta-sts.txt. You might be able to do that. While an SMTP extension is a technical possibility, in practice, again forget it. SMTP has a VRFY command that you have probably never heard of which is intended to let you check if a mail address exists. Spammers discovered it about 30 years ago to harvest mail addresses, and everyone turned it off. A key server extension would be similarly unpopular. So I guess the mta-sts like hack is a possibility, but I would think hard about how you are going to make it usable without also making it an attractive nuisance. R's, John _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]