[DNSOP] Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8945 (9014 )
Warren Kumari <[email protected]> Tue, 14 Jul 2026 13:45:32 -0500
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Someone poked me offlist and asked for an example — I figured I'd include it here: https://errata.rfc-editor.org/search/?rfc_number=5702 Here is another example, where I rejected the Errata, but left a note for future readers: https://errata.rfc-editor.org/search/?rfc_number=9460&presentation=records W On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 2:26 PM, Warren Kumari <[email protected]> wrote: > I had originally said Verified at one point some tooling wouldn't show the > Errata tag for HFDU, but it looks like that is not the case to DT now — see > e.g: RFC9910 - "Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) Regional > Internet Registry (RIR) Search" > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9910/> > > HFDU works too — but the core principle being "We are not changing the WG > consensus, we are simply (ab)using the Errata process to draw attention to > something important. Making a whole new "type" of Errata to me doesn't > really seem worth it for how seldom this happens, and because we have this > sort of option. > > I will also point at https://www.ietf.org/process/rfcs/vulnerabilities/ , > which speaketh thusly: > "For published RFCs (files named RFC####), these are completed, community > reviewed documents. If the working group that produced the RFC is still > active, it will work to vet the issue with you and decide the appropriate > way to address the issue. If confirmed, the vulnerability might be > addressed via an errata, an updated protocol specification document, or an > entire new document to handle the issue. For closed working groups, the > severity of the issue will determine the next steps. Minor issues can be > covered with errata. For more significant updates, the corresponding Area > Directors may charter a new working group to address the issues or > individually sponsor an update." > > W > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 2:16 PM, Petr Špaček <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 14. 07. 26 18:58, Warren Kumari wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 8:25 AM, Petr Špaček <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > On 25. 06. 26 8:14, [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't think filling an errata is appropriate here. This errata falls > under the following case [1]: > > "Changes that modify the working of a protocol to something that might be > different from the intended consensus when the document was approved should > generally be Rejected. Significant clarifications should not be handled as > errata reports and need to be discussed by the relevant technical > community." > > Process question. > > The above basically says: > Erratum is not appropriate because WG agreed on something. Even if it has > a security vulnerability in it - it is gold plated vulnerability with > consensus, don't dare to touch it! > > At the same time, https://www.ietf.org/process/rfcs/vulnerabilities/ > <https://www.ietf.org/process/rfcs/vulnerabilities/> suggests erratum > might be appropriate response at times. > > Do we need a new errata state to acknowledge: > "The correct text is different than WG agreed to, but the WG consensus > turned out to be technically wrong"? > > Personal view only: > Yes, errata should not be used to fix change WG consensus after the fact > - but what I think would be reasonable in situations like this is to mark > the errata as Verified, and change the errata text to something like: > "NOTE: This errata is a place holder. A security issue was discovered > which is discussed below. A new document which updates this RFC is being > prepared to address this issue, please see draft-foo" > > Yes, this is technically not the right way to use errata, but I think that > it falls into "do the right thing" territory. Obviously, confirming with > the RFC Ed that this won't make them sad seems like a good idea too... > > Wouldn't 'held for document update' accurately describe situation like > this? > > I understand why Verified is not an appropriate way to change WG > consensus, that's all clear. At the same time Rejected because it is gold > plated bug-in-spec also feels wrong, so the middle ground might fit best? > > -- > Petr Špaček > > _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]