RE: entity mib support for tcif

At 06:31 PM 9/14/2003 -0700, David T. Perkins wrote:
>HI,
>
>Can you provide us with pricing. Say, if SNMPinfo created
>a product that had a chassis, and 3 field replacable components,
>than how much would it cost SNMPinfo to obtain CLEI codes
>from Telcordia?

i can get that for you & send directly if you're interested
(i dont think we should use this list in a debate about
product pricing). i believe its something like
a few $100 for a code to be used for as many copies of
the product as the manufacturer chooses. thus in your example,
it would depend whether the 3 field replacable components
are identical products or not.


>Also, the link below, http://www.atis.org/doccenter.shtml, is
>to an organization that provides copies of docs for a fee.
>I don't see how it answers any questions. It does provide
>a way for me to pay US$58 for an electronic copy of document
>T1.213. (It doens't specify the page count.)

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>Can you provide
>a copy of the document to us for review?

i think that T1 documents are sold for a fee, so it would
be inappropriate to post one. google found this link:
http://www-comm.itsi.disa.mil/t1/213.html
unfortunately that is only an amendment but at least it shows
the rough outline of the CLEI and helps to show what
we're talking about,

kaj



>On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, Kaj Tesink wrote:
>
> > At 09:44 PM 9/12/2003 -0700, C. M. Heard wrote:
> >
> > >On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, David T. Perkins wrote:
> > > > In addition to the redundancy of objects, I have big issue
> > > > with including in a standards track MIB module, support for
> > > > a proprietary network management platform, and one where
> > > > there is significant costs for device vendors.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a FAQ on CLEIs from telcordia:
> > > >
> > > 
> http://www.telcordia.com/resources/commonlang/productshowroom/showroom/equip_id/carriers/faq.html
> > >
> > >[ ... remainder snipped ... ]
> > >
> > >It may be worth pointing out that CLEI codes (along with other
> > >Telcordia Common Language(TM) products) have been adopted as
> > >identifiers in ANSI standards, and there is a proposal on the table
> > >to add mappings of these ANSI standards to ITU-T Rec. M.1401.  See
> > >T1M1.3/2003-032, a URL for which is in the attached message from the
> > >T1M1.3 mail exploder.
> >
> >
> > Yup, that is right; Telcordia is actually the designated maintenance agent
> > for the ANSI document T1.213,
> > Coded Identification of Equipment Entities of the North American
> > Telecommunications System for
> > Information Exchange. This document provides the format and structure for
> > the CLEI code.
> > For details see http://www.atis.org/doccenter.shtml.
> >
> > Telcordia assigns CLEI codes on a request basis from a supplier for their
> > communications equipment.
> > For example, these codes are then placed on a linear bar code label which
> > is affixed onto the plug-in card as well as
> > the container for that plug-in card. What we're talking about here is to
> > make that information
> > accessible for network management ssystems.
> >
> > kaj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > >Products, primarily provide structures and formats for identifying
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> > Kaj Tesink
> > Telcordia Technologies. Inc.
>
>Regards,
>/david t. perkins


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Kaj Tesink
Telcordia Technologies. Inc.
331 Newman Springs Road
Red Bank, NJ 07701
Email: [email protected]
Tel: (732) 758-5254
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