Re: List moderator action

Actions like this are killing the IETF. We should have a simple policy that
any legal language in emails posted by members is to be ignored and have no
effect ... and then remove censorship.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2026, 1:02 PM Chris Box <[email protected]> wrote:

> Everyone,
>
> This message is to advise you that Daniel J Bernstein has been partially
> suspended from posting to [email protected] for a period of 30 days. This
> follows the posting of derivative rights claims [1] to the list in
> contravention of our previous request in [2]. The format of the notice is
> different to those used previously, but still seeks to apply the named
> restrictions "*may not be modified, and derivative works of it may not
> be **created, and it may not be published except as an Internet-Draft*"
> to his email contribution, via the sentence "*The same language hereby
> applies to this document.*" Such restrictions are considered disruptive
> following [3].
>
> This suspension is implemented as a "hold for moderation". If Daniel posts
> a message to the list that doesn't contain the rights claim and is on
> topic, it should be allowed through. This may take up to two working days.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Box on behalf of the Moderators team for [email protected]
>
> [1]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/145uUy-1rJ9ca8SHUDEPqxnKQ4Q/
> is the most recent example.
> [2]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/sx4j7BMLiGe_jGqpD6Kc3nvTS30/
> [3]
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-statement-on-clarifying-derivative-works-rights/
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 at 18:30, Chris Box <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Everyone,
>>
>> This message is to advise you that Daniel J Bernstein has been partially
>> suspended from posting to [email protected] for a period of 30 days. This
>> follows the posting of a derivative rights claim [1] to the list in
>> contravention of our previous request in [2]. Such claims are considered
>> disruptive following [3]. This suspension is implemented as a "hold for
>> moderation". If Daniel posts a message to the list that doesn't contain the
>> rights claim and is on topic, it should be allowed through. This may take
>> up to two working days.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Box on behalf of the Moderators team for [email protected]
>>
>> [1] At the end of
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/PStIAGIP2gbTNUPrr3t2jUjnS6g/
>> [2]
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/sx4j7BMLiGe_jGqpD6Kc3nvTS30/
>> [3]
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-statement-on-clarifying-derivative-works-rights/
>>
>>